VMware Workstation Shifting From Proprietary Code To Using Upstream KVM

[bkdwt]

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/vmware-makes-workstation-and-fusion-free-for-everyone/

[lanthaan]

More mindless "bloated" garbage.

Enterprise users have no fucking time to toy with the command line just to spin up, modify or manage a VM. If every damn option and the kitchen sink is not included in the graphical manager interface, it's useless garbage. End of story.

Please don't generalize too much here. There are more than enough capable "enterprise users" that know something about automation, that can work more effectively with scripts and automation than with clicking on GUI's. Not all enterprises have degenerated completely.

[slalomsk8er]

... Unless they count the different shades as different letters... I hope they don't, that's dumb if they do. It's a dumb name regardless.

That's corporate design for you, it's as inspired as Corporate Music - How to Compose with no Soul

PS: It's a Red Hat project.

[pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx]

It's not that. I am disappointed that Broadcom is no longer going to invest in the product as much as it did, and is going to rely on the 'community' to push virtualization further along.

Also, Broadcom had originally decided to just kill off the desktop products like VMWare Workstation. While I'm excited they are going to switch to KVM (and reduce their spend as you say), I wouldn't get too attached to these solutions. They will still spend > $0 maintaining these products, which may eventually result in them going back on the chopping block.

[tuaris]

can you elaborate? Playing nicely side by side with qemu is a massive benefit, not a detriment.

It's not that. I am disappointed that Broadcom is no longer going to invest in the product as much as it did, and is going to rely on the 'community' to push virtualization further along.

[Quackdoc]

Yep there it is. I knew VMWare Workstation going free was not without it's downside. Nothing is really 'free'. Oh well, maybe this means one day they'll leverage Bhyve and get Workstation working on FreeBSD.

can you elaborate? Playing nicely side by side with qemu is a massive benefit, not a detriment.

[tuaris]

Yep there it is. I knew VMWare Workstation going free was not without it's downside. Nothing is really 'free'. Oh well, maybe this means one day they'll leverage Bhyve and get Workstation working on FreeBSD.

[ssokolow]

Does anybody here have any idea if the VirtualBox proprietary hypervisor core still has any relevant advantages over KVM?

I don't know where in the stack the limitation comes from (could just be a UI fail but the sudos in the too-complicated-to-bother guides I've found for bare QEMU suggest not), but I've never figured out how to set up bridged networking on AQEMU, while it's just a drop-down choice under VirtualBox.

[Quackdoc]

Have a look at the top left of the site:

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yeah, but the "Icon/abbreviation" is still just VM, virtual machine manager is a generic term for well virtual machine managers https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sy...ew=sc-vmm-2022 https://www.synology.com/en-global/d...achine_manager

... Unless they count the different shades as different letters... I hope they don't, that's dumb if they do. It's a dumb name regardless.

[ssokolow]

Wow ….you waste so much time being unproductive. Not only from all the coding and hoops you put yourself through but in telling us all about all the coding and hoops you put yourself through .

But “Freedumb”….I guess.

See previous reply about why I'm doing most of them.

As for why I listed them, don't think too highly of yourself. I listed them because "Huh. Y'know what? I actually haven't tallied up what's left."