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ReiserFS File-System Expected To Be Removed With Linux 6.13

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  • #11
    The real value of reiserfs was to push other filesystems forward. It was a wake-up call to ext2/ext3.
    I only used reiserfs once for something serious back then. I got the "This is the last act of a desperate man" message when it got corrupted and I had to fsck that filesystem.
    Ended up having to restore the mail server of the University from backups...

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    • #12
      So if "no one is using it" is a justification to remove filesystems, that begs the question why we still have all stuff under "Misc filesystems", particular... when was the last time you used ADFS?

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      • #13
        I used reiser back in the day. It was actually quite performant. But no reason not to remove it, I doubt it's seen much use for years and (more importantly) much code maintenance.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by uxmkt View Post
          So if "no one is using it" is a justification to remove filesystems, that begs the question why we still have all stuff under "Misc filesystems", particular... when was the last time you used ADFS?
          You actually have a good point (and. for that matter, I could see making these FUSE filesystems if there are any users.). Oin the other hand, these misc filesystems tend to be simpler (both in terms of on disk format and code complexity) more like FAT (not even vfat), while reiserfs was/is relatively complex in design.

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          • #15
            Time to ask a controversial question that should result in a few pages of insults directed at me:

            To all the people that refuse to use ReiserFS because of what Hans did, assume that one day Linus is at a party and has too much to drink. He gets behind the wheel of a car, drives drunk. kills two people, is convicted of vehicular homicide and gets a double life sentence.

            Do you stop using Linux?

            Do you demand that any line of code that Linux wrote or pulled into mainline be removed from the kernel?

            Do you show the same moral outrage or do you separate the man from his work and keep using the OS that you love?

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            • #16
              Originally posted by sophisticles View Post
              Time to ask a controversial question that should result in a few pages of insults directed at me:

              To all the people that refuse to use ReiserFS because of what Hans did, assume that one day Linus is at a party and has too much to drink. He gets behind the wheel of a car, drives drunk. kills two people, is convicted of vehicular homicide and gets a double life sentence.

              Do you stop using Linux?

              Do you demand that any line of code that Linux wrote or pulled into mainline be removed from the kernel?

              Do you show the same moral outrage or do you separate the man from his work and keep using the OS that you love?
              How many people do you think don't use ReiserFS because of what he did versus not using it because it got obsolete and with it's main maintainer locked up it stopped getting updates and fixes?

              If Linus suddenly turns out to be a serial killer (to take a situation with much stronger moral failure than your hypothetical), do I think the project will continue alive and well, even if Linus were to get the chair? Yes. Would I keep using it? Yes.

              I still use a lot of software for which a pedo apologist is responsible. There's no evidence but I'm sure some lines of code here and there of software I use were written by rapists or nazis or murderers.

              A Jewish friend of mine loves Wagner. He taught me about separating art from its artist.

              While some commies showed me there's no ethical consumption under capitalism (what would even be "ethical consumption" in whatever fairy tale they think should be the economic model of the world, Who knows) and I do use energy that pollutes the air, buy electronics and clothing made by slave children in dogwash countries from closer or farther in Asia and Africa and South America, I sponsor the military complex god knows in how many indirect ways and have actually worked for a weapons manufacturer and a bank.


              "We live in a society", memes.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by sophisticles View Post
                Time to ask a controversial question that should result in a few pages of insults directed at me:

                To all the people that refuse to use ReiserFS because of what Hans did, assume that one day Linus is at a party and has too much to drink. He gets behind the wheel of a car, drives drunk. kills two people, is convicted of vehicular homicide and gets a double life sentence.
                That's not at all the same thing though. That would be more like refusing to watch a Matthew Broderick movie, which some people probably do.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by uxmkt View Post
                  So if "no one is using it" is a justification to remove filesystems, that begs the question why we still have all stuff under "Misc filesystems", particular... when was the last time you used ADFS?
                  This applies to a TON of stuff in the kernel. There are tens of millions of lines of code for things that are 30 years old that nobody uses, but that everybody refuses to remove from the kernel "just in case".

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                  • #19
                    I support ReiserFS, it is a filesystem that deeply affected the FOSS community and has a rich history.

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                    • #20
                      I used ReiserFS back in the day before EXT3 and JFS were available. It's was one of the worst filesystems I used, only FS used under Linux to eat itself and also had a bad habit of getting slower and slower to the point of bootup taking many times times longer, the longer the filesystem was aged.

                      ReiserFS was made FAT32 under Windows 9x look robust.

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