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  • #21
    Originally posted by LtdJorge View Post

    It's the classic Linux circlejerk, pluse the classic C circlejerk, compounded by the Phoronix trolls. The forum is full of them. Just take them as a joke and have a laugh, you'll be less pissed with this.
    I know the forum is full of them and yeah, I enjoy the drama... way more that I should actually.
    The thing is: I want to discover new stuff, learn things, learn different point of views.

    Instead you have birdie complaining about AMD and saying wrong shit like "nvidia's open-source DRIVER" (kill myself), you have random people (that nobody ever see them here, they just spawn like mold) saying the most useless things straight out of reddit, that doesn't explain their point of view and you're just left wondering: "what did he say?"

    I'd take everything as a joke, if you'd have 90% less stuff like this.

    Plus: the eternal systemd hate... just stop it.
    I get that systemd is like that one program that suffers from feature-creep and works like windows vista, but if systemd is so widespread there must be a reason for it.
    But well, people has to only see the worst in everything.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by CommunityMember View Post

      And that is why there are nearly 800 billion lines of Cobol code still being used (typically used to do things like paying you).
      I'm gonna add the fact that eventually it's all gonna collapse because COBOL is ancient and it's like X11: code being held by duct tape.
      And that's why payments are still a problem, generic errors that tells you nothing, stupid limitations and everything else.

      I'd not be surprised in the major world banks's skeletons are running in a windows 95 installation.

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      • #23
        *nod* Efforts like that to get the priority bumped on fixing compiler bugs by making them famous happen from time to time.

        The important things to keep in mind are:
        1. These sorts of things tend to be really esoteric edge-cases that are almost impossible to write unless you're actively trying to do this.
        2. rustc is not and will never be intended to serve as a security boundary. Priorities on fixing these sorts of things are set based on a target user base of programmers who are writing non-malicious projects or auditing submissions to them.
        3. There are a ton of these sorts of bugs in any compiler.
        For rustc, you can take a look at the I-unsound tag on the bug tracker to see what I'm talking about. I know LLVM and GCC both have plenty of similar bugs, but I'm not familiar enough with how they use their bug trackers to give you a comparable link.
        Last edited by ssokolow; 17 September 2024, 09:33 AM.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by bacteriamanicure View Post

          1. Linus, the first maintainer, wanted Rust

          It must be said reverently, with gently applied capitalization, like '...Linus, The First Maintainer...'

          As penance for your slight, you must calculate MD5 hash of Homer's Odyssey, using an abacus.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by kpedersen View Post

            But perhaps not enough to see that C still has a lot of advantages over Rust too. There is no clear cut answer, hence people merely state their opinions based on their own experience. Yes, some of it may be repetitive but it is important that people on both sides call out bullshit and marketing lies as they see it. Otherwise people really do get lead by the most "cool" influencer or some other lobbying attempt (and this is a very real thing).

            There are four main topics where opinions are absolutely divided (and not just on Phoronix).
            • Wayland vs X11
            • C vs Rust
            • AMD vs NVIDIA
            • systemd vs SysVinit
            Obsolete battles are:
            • Vim vs Emacs
            • Gnome vs KDE
            Those are for rookies!
            What about btrfs vs ZFS vs bcachefs?

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            • #26
              Originally posted by milkylainen View Post
              I'd rather waste my life writing something new instead of rewriting existing things.
              Maybe that's just me.
              People have different motivations and tings that they enjoy and that’s ok. There’s no wrong way.

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              • #27
                Is there a rational given for this, or is this more of a "throw things at the wall and see what sticks" moment? I don't really follow erofs stuff

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by bacteriamanicure View Post
                  Also imagine thinking C fanboys aren't alienated just by having other letters
                  Try adding two "+" letters to their letter and all hell brakes loose...

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by CommunityMember View Post
                    And that is why there are nearly 800 billion lines of Cobol code still being used (typically used to do things like paying you).
                    I propose to re-write EROFS in Cobol. This will show to the world that this language is still relevant today.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Delta_44 View Post
                      I usually don't write something, I'm more of a daily lurker here, but now I'm pretty pissed.
                      'll explain why.
                      (...)
                      .
                      You're VERY naive, you had a wrong impression about the phorum from the start, you don't know people, you're only learning what actual people think (except those who kinda represent certain companies so they know they must behave here). Here's some Linux codenames for you to realize how "grown-up" the Linux community is:

                      2.6.23 - “Pink Farting Weasel”
                      2.6.25 — “Funky Weasel is Jiggy wit it”
                      2.6.28 — “Erotic Pickled Herring”
                      2.6.35 — “Sheep on meth”
                      4.0 — “Hurr durr I'ma sheep”
                      4.7-rc1 — “Psychotic Stoned Sheep”

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