GNU Linux-libre 6.8-gnu Dealing With Blobs From New Intel Drivers

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  • PublicNuisance
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    I find the libre kernel worth the tradeoffs. I'm stuck with a closed source firmware anyway but i'd rather one on the hardware that is never going to get worse over one that can be updated at any time from the kernel with updates that may introduce bug fixes but could also introduce nefarious things as well.

    Originally posted by brad0 View Post

    Exactly, I need stuff that works. Not out of touch with reality delusional ideology.
    I am typing this from my desktop that has an i5-12600K and is running the libre kernel. Some newer hardware will work just fine. I've never had a CPU not work with the libre kernel, the issues usually lie with GPU and wifi. It's easy to find a libre friendly wifi. As for the GPU i'm trying to make do with the UHD 770 until I can afford a laptop with the Iris XE. if you do heavy gaming I can see how that will still be an issue but for 2D games, visual novels, and light 3D games it's fine.

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  • Noitatsidem
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    Originally posted by pixo View Post
    Could you point me to x86_64 system that has all firmware opensourced?
    And no, having it in EEPROM or ROM is not enough.
    As there is a lot of closedsource firmware in PC anyways this kernel is just hiding it under carpet and pretending it does not exists.
    Rather have the ability to load latest firmware than to live with broken one in some ROM due to some ideological jihad.
    This is the most insane part of these projects to me. Like I want that microcode update actually??

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  • pixo
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    Originally posted by Blademasterz View Post

    Not delusional, its open source, works as expected, you are in a open source freedom world, if it's doesn't works get out of it lol

    There is something called "Windows OS" if you need everything that just works 😉
    Could you point me to x86_64 system that has all firmware opensourced?
    And no, having it in EEPROM or ROM is not enough.
    As there is a lot of closedsource firmware in PC anyways this kernel is just hiding it under carpet and pretending it does not exists.
    Rather have the ability to load latest firmware than to live with broken one in some ROM due to some ideological jihad.

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  • andyprough
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    Originally posted by brad0 View Post
    It is completely delusional. Just as much as your post is.
    And yet it's running my Alder Lake laptop. So maybe not so delusional?

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  • brad0
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    Originally posted by Blademasterz View Post
    Not delusional, its open source, works as expected, you are in a open source freedom world, if it's doesn't works get out of it lol

    There is something called "Windows OS" if you need everything that just works 😉
    It is completely delusional. Just as much as your post is.

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  • Blademasterz
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    Originally posted by brad0 View Post

    Exactly, I need stuff that works. Not out of touch with reality delusional ideology.
    Not delusional, its open source, works as expected, you are in a open source freedom world, if it's doesn't works get out of it lol

    There is something called "Windows OS" if you need everything that just works 😉

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  • brad0
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    Originally posted by Noitatsidem View Post
    Oh. No doubt. I'd prefer a blob free distribution/kernel in theory, it's just that in practice you give up too much.
    Exactly, I need stuff that works. Not out of touch with reality delusional ideology.

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  • gnarlin
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    I give thanks to everyone who toils on this project.
    There should be no impediment to at least using the linux-libre kernel for virtual machines.
    This project is extremely important because it reminds everyone of the original point of Free software and what the remaining delta is between the upstream Linux project and what needs to be dealt with in one way or another before those two project can become overlapping magisterias. It is my hope that Linux-libre anchors Linux to Free software, even if the chain is made of quit the elastic rubber band. I hope one day that we can have a fully Free software stack without any technical or performance compromises remaining. I still hope.

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  • Noitatsidem
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    Originally posted by S.Pam View Post

    It's still good work. Linux is free, but the binary blob stuff is a two edged sword. The blob is a black box of software that you run, that could do bad things(tm). On the other hand it let's vendors push out cheaper hardware and let users bug test them and later release new firmware as blobs...

    As much of the Internet is run on virtual machines anyway these days, the libre Linux still has good opportunities to be used.
    Oh. No doubt. I'd prefer a blob free distribution/kernel in theory, it's just that in practice you give up too much.

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  • andyprough
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    Originally posted by NotMine999 View Post
    I wish this distro would post a table or something on their website
    It's not a distro, it's a de-blobbed kernel. You can read the deblob script for each release here: http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/releases/
    Mailing list is here: http://www.fsfla.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-libre

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