systemd 255 Released With A "Blue Screen of Death" For Linux Systems

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  • sophisticles
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2015
    • 2591

    #61
    Originally posted by Quackdoc View Post
    to me this sounds like a bunch of baloney coming from MS or something. I doubt the old style was any more "stressful" to the average user, in the end it's still a crash, now it's just immensely less useful for computer repairs people. ofc you can still just get the event viewer logs in most cases, but it's a much longer and more involved process now.
    MS never said it was "more stressful" to the average user, but they are correct that to the average user the cryptic stop codes are meaningless.

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    • jacob
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 2972

      #62
      Originally posted by Weasel View Post
      I like systemd-boot a lot because of its simplicity (and how bug ridden GRUB is in comparison).

      But I really, really cannot understand why it's part of systemd when it has nothing to do with it. You don't even need to have systemd installed for it to work (I mean, it's obvious, the system isn't even "up" at that point during boot).

      That's the problem here.

      Just call it "simple boot manager" and make it completely separate project and that's it.
      It used to be a separate project called gummiboot and became abandonware until the systemd project picked it up.

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      • jacob
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 2972

        #63
        Originally posted by sophisticles View Post

        Do you know what the complete saying is?

        Jack of all trades, master of none.
        You know what the complete saying is?

        Jack of all trades, master of none, is often better than master of one.

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        • andyprough
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 2452

          #64
          Originally posted by jacob View Post

          You know what the complete saying is?

          Jack of all trades, master of none, is often better than master of one.
          Looks like that is just a very recent fork, developed in the past few decades: https://english.stackexchange.com/qu.../508907#508907

          'Jack of all trades, master of none', or 'Jack of all trades, good at none' goes back to the early 1700's.

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          • Quackdoc
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2020
            • 5062

            #65
            Originally posted by sophisticles View Post
            MS never said it was "more stressful" to the average user, but they are correct that to the average user the cryptic stop codes are meaningless.
            to the average user it's all useless, none of it helped, however the average user used to be able to call the computer repair store, tell the repairsman the issue, and the repairsman could give a remote diagnosis. infinitely more "useful" to the average user.

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            • JEBjames
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2018
              • 374

              #66
              @Michael

              Typo

              "exposes all lock block" I think that should be "local"

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              • ojsl1
                Junior Member
                • Sep 2023
                • 42

                #67
                Wtf is wrong with the current black and white panic and oops screens, how is systemd-bsod an improvement other than just hurr durr colors equal better brand identity. Are distros going to start invoking systemd-bsod when unrecovable gpu or xorg freezes/lockups occur?

                OT: Its funny how in my whole previous life of using windows it was fleetingly rare for gpu crashes to require a complete reboot - unlike on linux where its next to unheard of for gpus to recover from crashes.

                Other than all that the much bigger headache for linux newcomers is the issue of booting into blinking cursor and/or a black screen and the tens of reasons that could have caused it. People (other than me) arent going to spend ten minutes (not to mention hours) googling for why their system is stuck on boot when they can just quickly install windows again.

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                • Almindor
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 480

                  #68
                  Originally posted by F.Ultra View Post
                  It's only a resolver, it cannot cause slowdowns of your network traffic.
                  Ok that one goes in the book. And unlike the 640k one this one was actaually uttered by someone!

                  Lol, a resolver can't slow network traffic <wipes tears>. Classic. Dude! Todays programs tend to requery domain names like 500 times a second coz they suck so much. Of course a bad resolver will slow traffic. Not only that, it can literally brick your system for seconds coz most of those crappy programs will block on it too!

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                  • Danny3
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 2384

                    #69
                    Originally posted by sophisticles View Post

                    That's why they have a Market Cap of 2.75 trillion dollars:
                    Ok, my bad.
                    It destroys everything good it touches!
                    As in good for anyone else or for all of us.
                    Like, privacy, freedom!

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                    • openminded
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2022
                      • 223

                      #70
                      Now I understand why Poettering started to work at Microsoft!

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