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  • #11
    Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post
    Ideally, they'd come out with some sort of protocol for init systems and service managers to target so they'd be a little more plug-and-play, swappable, with each other.
    They do have a lot of standardized interfaces https://systemd.io/PORTABILITY_AND_STABILITY/

    sd_notify has been implemented by many other projects for instance.

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    • #12
      They couldn’t use an other name than this??
      Not only the name is stupid, not color modular, but also very bound to Windows.

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      • #13
        if some printer device is based on systemd, what could systemd world think about it? is it running service, is it AI or is it maybe linux kernel based device

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        • #14
          Originally posted by stormcrow View Post

          They nixed them because the error codes were giving users too much unhelpful information causing even more stress to the average user - the vast majority of Windows' users.

          However, if you DO have that information and know what you're doing, you can attach a debugger and get the same information as you could in older versions.

          Learn about bug checks, which provide information when Microsoft Windows encounters a condition that compromises safe system operation and the system halts.


          Systems programmers where this information is useful should already be aware of this. Everyone else it's just noise.
          to me this sounds like a bunch of baloney coming from MS or something. I doubt the old style was any more "stressful" to the average user, in the end it's still a crash, now it's just immensely less useful for computer repairs people. ofc you can still just get the event viewer logs in most cases, but it's a much longer and more involved process now.

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          • #15
            SO MANY features get rolled into this project. New keywords for service files even when there already existed a whole bagful. Honestly, almost no-one knows how to correctly write a systemd service file that does exactly what is wanted. There are 5 methods to do the same thing, but they differ slightly in behavior in some edge case, and it usually takes a discussion thread of like 5 experienced systemd users and several days of brainstorming to achieve a "final" consensus how some non-trivial service file should be written. WTF?

            I managed pretty well to live with cron and shell scripts under sysV. With systemd i can only hope google brings me to the right discussion thread for the type of service i need...
            Last edited by varikonniemi; 06 December 2023, 06:45 PM.

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            • #16
              Off-topic:
              I'm smoking (weed) and thinking... aren't Elon Musk's future brain chips gonna be running on Linux? Will we as humans see a bsod when it crashes? I think it would be Cyberpunk as hell.
              Last edited by cl333r; 06 December 2023, 06:50 PM.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by rmfx View Post
                They couldn’t use an other name than this??
                Not only the name is stupid, not color modular, but also very bound to Windows.
                It's a good name. Everyone immediately knows what it means. "Color modular" would be an anti-feature here.

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                • #18
                  Lennart is being paid by Microsoft to make desktop GNU/Linux more like Windows. So you might as well get used to this type of nonsense. Next up will be 'systemd-clippy', and 'systemd-cortana'.

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                  • #19
                    coming to a kiosk near you...

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                    • #20
                      I hope it includes the giant frown as well

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