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  • LinAdmin
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    Originally posted by pipe13 View Post

    ...username checks out., although tbf the crc32 hardware enablement shouldn't be real hard once they figure it out.
    Nothing is real hard once you have figured it out, so your comment does not make any point.

    Scrubbing with auto repair sounds simple, but imho it takes some effort to do it correctly.

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  • skeevy420
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    Originally posted by Weasel View Post
    Depends what you mean by turtle speed.

    I wouldn't use a 10 kbps dialup speed drive even if it retained data for thousands of years, except to backup extremely small sensitive files, like encryption keys and maybe a tiny recovery OS.
    The 90s porn experience

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  • oleid
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    Originally posted by cynic View Post

    this is being screnshotted for when people will actually start to use it and got data eaten.

    As long as they don't use it for important data or have good backups... I can recommend restic/rustic.

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  • cynic
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    Originally posted by oleid View Post

    It may not corrupt the data, that for sure.
    this is being screnshotted for when people will actually start to use it and got data eaten.


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  • Weasel
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    Originally posted by HD7950 View Post
    It doesn't matter if it is at turtle speed but please: DO NOT CORROMPT OR LOSE MY DATA.​
    Depends what you mean by turtle speed.

    I wouldn't use a 10 kbps dialup speed drive even if it retained data for thousands of years, except to backup extremely small sensitive files, like encryption keys and maybe a tiny recovery OS.

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  • fitzie
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    Originally posted by HD7950 View Post
    At this point the priority should not be performance. To build a good reputation, the main thing is to focus on reliability, something that Btrfs never achieved after more than a decade. A high score in a performance test is of no use if it is not backed up by bombproof endurance. The most important thing about a file system, for the average user, is to forget that it exists.​

    It doesn't matter if it is at turtle speed but please: DO NOT CORROMPT OR LOSE MY DATA.​
    I think their priority needs to be the features. realistically, they will never get reliability until a hyperscaler starts a big test deployment of bcachefs to start to put bcachefs through it's paces, which will expose all the easy to trigger bugs inside the filesystem. and unless they have a minimum set of features, there's little chance of that.

    I'll certainly be putting bcachefs through some tests, as I'd like to see it be fulfill it's promise, but I won't bother putting it in a major role until there's a track record, and the quickest way to accelerate that track record is with hyperscalers.

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  • Vermilion
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    Originally posted by HD7950 View Post
    the main thing is to focus on reliability, something that Btrfs never achieved after more than a decade​
    If only Fedora, Meta, SUSE, Google, Synology all took advices from you

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  • Joe2021
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    Originally posted by HD7950 View Post
    At this point the priority should not be performance. To build a good reputation, the main thing is to focus on reliability...

    It doesn't matter if it is at turtle speed but please: DO NOT CORROMPT OR LOSE MY DATA.​
    So true, but what was the first thing that happened at this very site when Bcachefs became part of the linux kernel? A benchmark comparing the performance.

    Don't get me wrong, I fully understand that this is what phoronix is primary about, but it still demonstrates that most people glance at the performance numbers.

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  • oleid
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    Originally posted by HD7950 View Post
    A high score in a performance test is of no use if it is not backed up by bombproof endurance. The most important thing about a file system, for the average user, is to forget that it exists.​

    It doesn't matter if it is at turtle speed but please: DO NOT CORROMPT OR LOSE MY DATA.​
    It may not corrupt the data, that for sure. But if it is turtle speed few people will use it. And it might turn out that the disk format needs a change to reach faster speeds.

    In an ideal world the filesystem should not be too far off from the rest of the filesystems and provide reliability.

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  • User29
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    Originally posted by HD7950 View Post
    At this point the priority should not be performance. To build a good reputation, the main thing is to focus on reliability
    This is true. However... Building reputation takes a lot of time and is booooooriiiiiiiing. Winning different benchmarks is probably a bit easier.


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