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  • #11
    My personal model for Microsoft's business is "empower the subpar" -- to find lazy admins, shitty programmers, incompetent managers, etc., and sell them a way to wrap their vile mental spawn into so many layers of colourful foil that it starts to look viable. This explains like 99% of their actions, from DOS through basic, Windows, .net, Office up to ChatGPT.

    Like of course they want a global script control, because executing random things in sensitive contexts is what their customers do, what they want to do, and what Microsoft wants them to want, so that they can sell some some new kind of bubblewrap to contain the risk. Until everything blows into someone's face, but who cares, everything was up to industry standards.

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    • #12


      Originally posted by Volta View Post
      March 2023.

      Windows 10 with HVCL is available from 2015. So over 7 years Windows kernel was more secure ten Linux kernel. That's why.

      The laptop was compromised because Lenovo did not add a fix to UEFI, which was already available for over a year(!).

      Lenovo add fix to their UEFI and ​Windows will be again more secure.

      Originally posted by Volta View Post
      Remind me for what reasons Linux was banned?
      Easy kernel infection comparing to Windows kernel.​
      Last edited by HEL88; 13 May 2023, 11:59 AM.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Vorpal View Post

        Wait what? Someone actually uses PowerShell on anything but Windows? Why???
        The same reason why people actually use ZFS on their Linux home desktops.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by szymon_g View Post

          why not? as a shell it's way better than bash. it's less elastic than python, but not everyone has to know it.
          powershell is not a shell, it's a utility tool masquerading as a shell. using PS as a shell is mind bafflingly bad, it overrides many common utilities, without them being syntactically compatible, piping is still broken for non text data, and more issues that make using it as a shell an extreme pain in the ass. I like it as a utility tool, but it's a terrible shell

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Vorpal View Post

            Wait what? Someone actually uses PowerShell on anything but Windows? Why???
            Masochism.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Volta View Post

              Good to see M$ helping with security on Linux
              Agree! Hopefully they can reduce where linux is behind windows regarding security: https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/linux.html

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Volta View Post

                If they've chosen Windows then security wasn't one of their priorities.
                but they where buzzword compliant and that was probably the important thing.

                Originally posted by CTTY View Post

                Agree! Hopefully they can reduce where linux is behind windows regarding security: https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/linux.html
                ​That is not a list of where Linux is behind Windows, that is just a list of things the author thinks are bad with Linux, many of them apply to Windows as well (e.g one item is that much code for Linux is written in C and C++, well so is also the majority of software for Windows).
                Last edited by F.Ultra; 13 May 2023, 05:03 PM.

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                • #18
                  Soon we will have to "root" Linux desktops the same way we root Android phones. I would be wary of such approaches by Microsoft, sometimes limitations to freedom are advertised in the name of (false) security.
                  Last edited by Mat2; 13 May 2023, 05:17 PM.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Volta View Post

                    If they've chosen Windows then security wasn't one of their priorities. Good to see M$ helping with security on Linux, though. They can't do anything about it on Windows, because it's broken by design.
                    This couldn't be further from the truth - Windows is making security improvements in strides, and we shouldn't ignore that. It has many, many planned secure-by-default features coming for Windows 11. If you haven't seen this excellent talk, I'd recommend checking it out as it details their plans to make their OS far more secure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T6ClX-y2AE

                    Microsoft is rewriting parts of their OS in Rust already, including in the kernel, and rolling those changes out to customers. They're not sitting idly by while Linux eats their lunch.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Vorpal View Post

                      Wait what? Someone actually uses PowerShell on anything but Windows? Why???
                      I actually needed some scripts with same functionality on both windows and linux. And since WSL back then wasn't a thing, simplest thing was to simply take existing powershell scripts install on linux powershell core and just execute them.

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