Systemd 251-rc2 Released With More Features

[jacob]

And I would bet that the largest source of hate for Windows is from Windows users.

Probably, since there are thousands of Windows users for every Linux user as far as the desktop goes.

99% of the noise about Windows from Linux and *BSD users is just the technology equivalent of virtue signaling.

There is certainly some truth in that.

[arQon]

If anything, I would bet my bottom dollar that there is in fact a lot more hate towards Windows in the various BSD communities than in Linuxland.

And I would bet that the largest source of hate for Windows is from Windows users.

99% of the noise about Windows from Linux and *BSD users is just the technology equivalent of virtue signaling.

[jacob]

Systemd package manager when?

It's already here with the /usr overlay manager

[arun54321]

Systemd package manager when?

[F.Ultra]

Kubernetes, docker, virtualization, cloud tech. None of that was taught when I was in school. I was looking at a job as a Linux System Administrator and I feel like the traditional system administration I learned in school has gone away. Everything is orchestrated now. We didn't even learn git in college! I'm just a lowly data center tech aspiring to be a system administrator someday!

Technology moves forward. That said virtualization and cloud tech was old school already 12 years ago, kubernetes and docker is just products using those technologies. 12 years ago you used chroot on Linux or jails on BSD to do similar tasks. Granted they where more common in big iron back then on IBM mainframes or Solaris boxes while Linux where mostly used for small tasks, what happened when you where gone is that Linux basically took over the role of big iron.

[sinepgib]

Kubernetes, docker, virtualization, cloud tech. None of that was taught when I was in school. I was looking at a job as a Linux System Administrator and I feel like the traditional system administration I learned in school has gone away. Everything is orchestrated now. We didn't even learn git in college! I'm just a lowly data center tech aspiring to be a system administrator someday!

Which is mostly still true, depending on the program. Those are techs you learn on the job really. Always were.

[kylew77]

So the more accurate saying would be that BSD is for those who love Unix (and hate Windows), Linux is for those who love operating systems.

I would say that quote describes me. I go out of my way to avoid Microsoft products. I won't use Azure, refuse to use Windows that I didn't get the license for free, only buy Xboxes used from gamestop and never new, have never bought a new Microsoft game, etc. I'm about as anti-microsoft as it gets.

[kylew77]

Changed in what aspect? Please be more specific. Containers have been a Unix thing since 1979 and while you don't have flatpack, snap and appimage as such in the BSDs there are equivalent technologies going back to 2000.

Kubernetes, docker, virtualization, cloud tech. None of that was taught when I was in school. I was looking at a job as a Linux System Administrator and I feel like the traditional system administration I learned in school has gone away. Everything is orchestrated now. We didn't even learn git in college! I'm just a lowly data center tech aspiring to be a system administrator someday!

[sinepgib]

Soon, systemd will become a fully fledged distro :P

I hope so, maybe then we'll actually have a usable distro

[F.Ultra]

I feel like I don't know Linux anymore with some of the recent changes. It is some kind of fraken-Unix. I was reading the job description for a system administrator and it was nothing like the ones I read in college 12 years ago. SystemD, containers, flatpack, snaps-- have all changed the landscape of Linux forever. I find myself much preferring the slower pace life of OpenBSD, FreeBSD, and NetBSD. There is a quote that goes in part those who love Unix use *BSD, those who hate Windows use Linux and Linux is looking less and less like a Unix. I find myself longing for a job managing legacy Unix systems like HP-UX and Solaris which are still out there and command a premium.

Changed in what aspect? Please be more specific. Containers have been a Unix thing since 1979 and while you don't have flatpack, snap and appimage as such in the BSDs there are equivalent technologies going back to 2000.