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  • Linux 5.17 Released With AMD P-State Driver, Plenty Of New Hardware Support

    Phoronix: Linux 5.17 Released With AMD P-State Driver, Plenty Of New Hardware Support

    Following the one week delay to the release schedule, Linus Torvalds issued the Linux 5.17 stable release a short time ago...

    https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...-5.17-Released
  • Answer selected by Michael at 22 March 2022, 07:31 AM.

    Originally posted by Vorpal View Post

    Huh? I'm not a native English speaker, so maybe it is some idiom I don't know, but I'm utterly confused.

    I am a native Swedish speaker (Torvalds native language). Though I speak mainland Swedish, not Finland Swedish (there are subtle differences). That doesn't help decode this. And I don't speak Finnish at all.
    I am not a native speaker, but this is what I think:
    - Brown paper is just some cheap paper you wrap other stuff with
    - Fodder is some low quality food that cannot be consumed by people, so it is fed to livestock

    So my guess is:
    "There were some easy to fix bugs that would be solved after rc7; if it wasn't for the rc8, they would have been fixed (some trivial and boring fixes) in the first stable release. And they were not important or interesting bugs at all."

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    • #2
      avoid some brown-paper bugs that would otherwise have been stable fodder
      Huh? I'm not a native English speaker, so maybe it is some idiom I don't know, but I'm utterly confused.

      I am a native Swedish speaker (Torvalds native language). Though I speak mainland Swedish, not Finland Swedish (there are subtle differences). That doesn't help decode this. And I don't speak Finnish at all.

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      • #3
        Originally posted by Vorpal View Post

        Huh? I'm not a native English speaker, so maybe it is some idiom I don't know, but I'm utterly confused.

        I am a native Swedish speaker (Torvalds native language). Though I speak mainland Swedish, not Finland Swedish (there are subtle differences). That doesn't help decode this. And I don't speak Finnish at all.
        I assume it's a reference to brown paper bags, but I don't get it either.

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        • #4
          Originally posted by Vorpal View Post

          Huh? I'm not a native English speaker, so maybe it is some idiom I don't know, but I'm utterly confused.

          I am a native Swedish speaker (Torvalds native language). Though I speak mainland Swedish, not Finland Swedish (there are subtle differences). That doesn't help decode this. And I don't speak Finnish at all.
          Could also be that Torvalds has been in the US for a long time.

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          • #5
            it's something like this

            A programming bug that is so stupid that it makes the programmer want to put a brown paper bag over his head.

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            • #6
              Originally posted by lumks View Post
              it's something like this


              And what does "stable fodder" mean?

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              • #7
                Originally posted by cl333r View Post

                And what does "stable fodder" mean?
                Probably the comments about how many bugs there are in the stable release?

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                • #8
                  Vorpal cl333r I believe that "fodder" means food (or perhaps prey? English isn't my native language, however I did live in the US during part of my childhood), so perhaps food for the horses?

                  I would hazard a guess that the point is that something might not be as worth doing as it originally seems, or something similar to that.

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                  • #9
                    Originally posted by Vorpal View Post

                    Huh? I'm not a native English speaker, so maybe it is some idiom I don't know, but I'm utterly confused.

                    I am a native Swedish speaker (Torvalds native language). Though I speak mainland Swedish, not Finland Swedish (there are subtle differences). That doesn't help decode this. And I don't speak Finnish at all.
                    I am not a native speaker, but this is what I think:
                    - Brown paper is just some cheap paper you wrap other stuff with
                    - Fodder is some low quality food that cannot be consumed by people, so it is fed to livestock

                    So my guess is:
                    "There were some easy to fix bugs that would be solved after rc7; if it wasn't for the rc8, they would have been fixed (some trivial and boring fixes) in the first stable release. And they were not important or interesting bugs at all."

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                    • #10
                      Originally posted by er888kh View Post

                      I am not a native speaker, but this is what I think:
                      - Brown paper is just some cheap paper you wrap other stuff with
                      - Fodder is some low quality food that cannot be consumed by people, so it is fed to livestock

                      So my guess is:
                      "There were some easy to fix bugs that would be solved after rc7; if it wasn't for the rc8, they would have been fixed (some trivial and boring fixes) in the first stable release. And they were not important or interesting bugs at all."
                      Thanks, I remembered that "fodder" had to do with food, however I could not remember the context.
                      Your explanation certainly makes sense (and is similar to my assumption of the meaning of the quote).

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