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  • ManicRobot
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    Originally posted by betty567 View Post
    But Rust doesn't use "garbage collection", it uses "unicorn farts that nobody can quite describe" but don't call it garbage collection, because garbage collection has a negative connotation. Rust is a win for it's own marketing folks, and nothing else.
    "I don't understand it therefore it is unicorn farts"

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  • dragonn
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    Originally posted by betty567 View Post

    C is not successful? The entire world runs on C code, and seems to work just fine. But sure, all of the Rust so code is sooooo high quality, and the world will be revolutionized as soon as the last bit of C code is re-written in Rust. Some naive programmers are going to be very disappointed when this never happens, and Rust, aka "the flavor of the week" fizzles out after an uneventful lifetime, just like Ruby did.
    What kind of stupid argument is that?
    Please stop, according to you if something is used by the entire world it is fine and every one should use it, then why are you even here? You should be running Windows on your PC, not the stupid 1% system no one uses.
    The world shows that often the widely used are not the best solution but the solution what was first on that market or the most easy to use (doesn't mean the best).

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  • catpig
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    Originally posted by brad0

    No, you're just dumb.
    Adorable

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  • catpig
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    Originally posted by brad0 View Post

    That's like Beavis calling Butthead a genius.
    Sounds like I hit a nerve ^^

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  • Quackdoc
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    Originally posted by brad0 View Post

    You're just telling me you don't have a clue.
    you are absolutely right, when it comes to C, I am completely lost, just can't wrap my head around it like apparently you C wizards, Rust on the other hand? not so bad.

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  • brad0
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    Originally posted by Quackdoc View Post
    I don't know your extent of skills in rust and C, but whatever they are, you and me have come to some very different conclusions. from my experience, It is far easier to write safe and good rust code, than it is to write safe and good C code.
    You're just telling me you don't have a clue.

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  • Quackdoc
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    Originally posted by brad0 View Post

    It wouldn't do any such thing in the slightest.
    I don't know your extent of skills in rust and C, but whatever they are, you and me have come to some very different conclusions. from my experience, It is far easier to write safe and good rust code, than it is to write safe and good C code.

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  • Almindor
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    Originally posted by betty567 View Post

    You must be some "new school" programmer who lacks accomplishments but thinks he has it all figured out.

    C is excellent for an OS kernel because memory management is 100% up to the developer. You decide your own allocation strategy, you decide when and how to initialize memory, your own re-use strategy, and you decide when to free memory. There are no features that must be abstained from when doing low-level things, there is no "unsafe" portion of the language that one must rely exclusively on in these low-level scenarios. No "garbage collection", which is a "for dummies" feature for people who cannot keep track of allocations. But Rust doesn't use "garbage collection", it uses "unicorn farts that nobody can quite describe" but don't call it garbage collection, because garbage collection has a negative connotation. Rust is a win for it's own marketing folks, and nothing else.
    You just proved that you have no idea what Rust, or even "manual memory management" is about. Congrats!

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  • brad0
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    Originally posted by Quackdoc View Post
    I would like to see this merged, it would lower the bar for entry into kernel hacking a decent chunk. recently mesa is has something using rust, so thats a win too, it will be slow, but we shall see rust get more and more popular
    It wouldn't do any such thing in the slightest.

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  • brad0
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    Originally posted by darkonix View Post
    If you read the patches they have very detailed notes on what doesn't work, bug numbers and pending features proposed for upstream Rust.
    Still not good enough.

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