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Originally posted by bachchain View PostAdmittedly, I don't have much experience in enterprise environments, but I feel like if your super-important system's emergency backup doesn't last long enough to do a normal shutdown, the solution shouldn't be to add a "mostly harmless" storage shutdown protocol
And that does not even include the "stuff happens" issues where the entire power distribution system goes "WHHAAAAACK!" (in a very loud and wanting to be somewhere else kind of way)
In any case, the proper way to design a "super important system" to be reliable typically includes geographic diversity.
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Originally posted by CommunityMember View Post
Under many jurisdictions EPO is required to shut down any/all power instantaneously, including backup power (UPS) systems (at least if you want them to be compliant, and if they are not, you may not get a certificate of occupancy).
And that does not even include the "stuff happens" issues where the entire power distribution system goes "WHHAAAAACK!" (in a very loud and wanting to be somewhere else kind of way)
In any case, the proper way to design a "super important system" to be reliable typically includes geographic diversity.
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Originally posted by Developer12 View PostDo you know what to look for when buying an SSD that has full power failure protection?
I would presume other Enterprise vendors have something equivalent. And while I would not swear to the current status, for Samsung it used to be that the SSD and/or NVMe stick had to end in a 3 (so 863, 963, 983, etc.).
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Originally posted by bachchain View Post
A laptop should know well in advance when it's going to run out of power. Besides, my laptop running Linux can do a full clean shutdown within four seconds.
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Excessive capacitance can incur a sharp overcurrent situation during power on as the capacitors initially charge up. That high current can cause corona discharge inside switches and stress power delivery circuitry. In the case of USB attached storage, the USB specification has 10uF max capacitance allowed for bus powered devices. Even if the cost of "adding a capacitor" seems like it should not be much, the required additional circuitry to provide current limited soft-start of a high capacitance device adds up.
If your SSD contains capacitors, capacitors can break down over time. I've had many electronics gadgets wind up as dead bricks due to failing electrolytic capacitors taking out the power supply, which then takes out everything else down the line.
If software can take care of the safe shutdown issue instead, we can save money, board size, and weight upfront using cheaper SSDs that don't have excess capacitors. It should improve long term reliability from lack of failing caps, saving us a lot of time and headaches in the long run too.
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