Raspberry Pi OS Switches To PulseAudio, Updated Chromium

[oiaohm]

I'm sure they noticed most people ended up using the Pi as if it were a whole computer... (it technically is, but wasn't it meant for education/prototyping?)

When you think of a raspberry pi and the modern replacement old entry level computers like the C64. Remember education at times have had trouble having enough computers for students do their work.

Pi key requirement is be cheap. Really its impressive that we have gone from 256Megs of ram in 2012 to 2G of ram 2020 for 35 dollar complete computer board. Does ask the question what will a 35 dollar Pi board look like in another 5 years.

[ssokolow]

Nice. Now I can use a Pi to easily build the PulseAudio equivalent of a Chromecast dongle.

[unic0rn]

I thought some distros were starting to move from PulseAudio to Pipewire now, and Raspberry Pi OS is just making the move to PulseAudio?



Manjaro is not a distro with competent or trustworthy developers.

And we should consider you competent and trustworthy when it comes to judging Manjaro developers why exactly?

[loganj]

does Pi4 support 5.1/7.1 audio out? i actually have no clue how hdmi audio works (on computer or on the receiver)

[Danny3]

Danny3 It’s more likely they move to GNOME like everybody else do these days.

Better wayland support, better compositor and all the nice QA done by Ubuntu’s team dedicated to GNOME@Pi.

If Gnome is slow and resource hungry on computers, on Raspberry Pi would be unbearable and unusable, not to mention that for me Gnome 3 is already unusable and KDE makes me feel like home.

[fanbelt]

And we should consider you competent and trustworthy when it comes to judging Manjaro developers why exactly?

He's right though. This page summarizes the main debacles of the Manjaro devs. I almost got hit by their unbootable systemd bug but luckily I happened to be browsing their forums that day.

[zoomblab]

ubuntu 20.10 is compatible with pi4 and with 8gb ram it have enought resourges for web and office and some light gaming even using gnome and ubuntu is much better alternative than raspeberry os tomany bugs to dated software, ofc it's light for old versions like rpi3b+ but for the 4 with at least 4gb of the ram ubuntu or manjaro are better for desktop and others things no doubts about that

It runs at snail speeds. Which tells a lot about Gnome in general. Multicore computers with Ghz clocks and GBs of RAM can not keep up with Gnome bloat.

I have had this thought for a while. A way for Linux to become vailable for mainstream would be to force all freedesktop developers work with a Raspberry computer while also ban any form of terminal so that they would have to think in terms of efficient and user friendly GUI workflows.

[sykobee]

Just a note that if your audio is really quiet after the upgrade, yet everything seems maxed out in the UI, speakers, etc, because alsa is still there in the background, its old volume setting is still applied, and then the new pulseaudio volume is applied on top of that.

Run alsamixer in terminal, select your audio output, and adjust the slider upwards, I did 80%, 100% is likely fine, maybe better thinking about it.

[ssokolow]

It runs at snail speeds. Which tells a lot about Gnome in general. Multicore computers with Ghz clocks and GBs of RAM can not keep up with Gnome bloat.

I have had this thought for a while. A way for Linux to become vailable for mainstream would be to force all freedesktop developers work with a Raspberry computer while also ban any form of terminal so that they would have to think in terms of efficient and user friendly GUI workflows.

Agreed. I've been meaning to pick up a Pi and hang an external non-SSD hard drive off it to serve as my test platform for apps that I write since my Athlon II X2 270 isn't that slow, it's got 16GiB of RAM, and I'm preparing to install an SSD.

[jaxa]

Just a note that if your audio is really quiet after the upgrade, yet everything seems maxed out in the UI, speakers, etc, because alsa is still there in the background, its old volume setting is still applied, and then the new pulseaudio volume is applied on top of that.

Run alsamixer in terminal, select your audio output, and adjust the slider upwards, I did 80%, 100% is likely fine, maybe better thinking about it.

I haven't upgraded yet, but I just set HDMI and Analog to 100% ahead of the upgrade.