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The New Microsoft exFAT File-System Driver Has Landed In Linux 5.7
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Originally posted by Royi View PostIs there a legal issue on that?
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The GPL already excludes any liability:
"This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more details."
There is also btrfs support with WinBtrfs.
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Long story short, with Linux 5.7 is a much better Microsoft exFAT file-system implementation that is more reliable and with more functionality than the older driver
while it will continue to receive improvements by Samsung and others.
Something being newer does not automatically mean better IMO.
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Let me get this straight, because it is so mind-boggling I can't really believe it:
Microsoft shoehorned their crappy FAT successor into the SDXC standard, forcing the whole world to license their trivial patents, something which should have never happened in the first place. Then they made gazillions from royalties, to the point where they are making more money from every Android device than Google does on the whole OS. They don't even maintain a reference implementation of exFAT, so besides having to pay royalties everybody also has to buy or maintain their own exFAT drivers.
15 years later, shortly before the patents run out anyway, they pull a marketing stunt. Linux now ships a "Microsoft" exFAT driver that wasn't written by them, wasn't contributed by them and isn't maintained by them. They haven't even contributed the patents to the OIN yet, more than half a year after "looking into it".
Objectively speaking Microsoft got billions for trivial patents and didn't give back or do anything. Zero. Nada. They can't even be bothered to put a simple signature under the OIN contract. Yet the get the praise for "having changed" and "loving Linux".
Yes, they have changed. This is not the Microsoft from the 90s. This is much worse.
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Originally posted by zoomblab View PostHow do we know all that? Are there QA tests that prove it?
The case is the prior mainline exfat driver that the samsung exfat driver is replacing is the young new kid on the block. So yes newer is not always better in this case the new exfat driver that went mainline first is way worse than the samsung exfat driver that has over a decade of development under it belt already.
Originally posted by zoomblab View PostAgain how can we know that?.
The merge into mainline kernel request and samsung developer is the maintainer of the exfat driver going forwards after 5.7.
The annoying part about is this driver from Samsung could have been merged mainline over a decade ago if Microsoft was not being jackass with patents.Last edited by oiaohm; 05 April 2020, 08:37 AM.
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Originally posted by Aryma View Postwe need ex4 support in windows
No, missing ext4 FS driver is not blocker/slowdown of productivity for anybody,...
If you need (are forced to have) windows for corporate work, then ext4 would probably complicate yours life (as it's not very compatible to windows user management)... Though, there might be some rage edge cases, where it might make sense, it's not worth it for such extreme minority,..
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Originally posted by Britoid View Post
and Ubuntu loves enabling broken or buggy things on the kernel, just ask those bricked laptops.
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