Systemd 245 Shipping Soon With Systemd-Homed, Systemd-Repart Partitioner

[Danielsan]

Too much complexity to handle just one folder... I don't like this path, simplicity is what I like of GNU & Linux, and I don't want use an OS that I can't control because it became tremendously complicated, because it ended up that someone else is controlling you. I will finish installing Gentoo...

[skeevy420]

I can change my kernel. I can compile my own to fit my own criteria. I don't use systemd, but am I wrong - on a systemd distro you can't even change the version it is using or you will bork the system? I can roll back my kernel, try experimental new kernels, stick with a conservative LTS kernel, compile my own, do all kinds of things with the kernel. It sounds like with systemd, you are much more handcuffed.

Also, the kernel isn't volunteering to resize my partitions. That's dangerous territory.

Feel free to change the kernel version at any time. It isn't an issue. At least not on Arch/Manjaro or Debian/Ubuntu or SUSE/OpenSUSE...so I assume it isn't much of an issue elsewhere either.

Systemd version, OTOH, tread lightly...that's best left up the the distribution maintainers.

[Britoid]

Too much complexity to handle just one folder... I don't like this path, simplicity is what I like of GNU & Linux, and I don't want use an OS that I can't control because it became tremendously complicated because it ended up that someone else is controlling you. I will finish installing Gentoo...

We don't live in a world where people only do simple things.

[Britoid]

Feel free to change the kernel version at any time. It isn't an issue. At least not on Arch/Manjaro or Debian/Ubuntu or SUSE/OpenSUSE...so I assume it isn't much of an issue elsewhere either.

Systemd version, OTOH, tread lightly...that's best left up the the distribution maintainers.

He's just spouting nonsense, everything he said is false.

[starshipeleven]

Is the systemd XFS stuff secretly intertwined with Stadia?

you mean Stratisd

[starshipeleven]

Too much complexity to handle just one folder... I don't like this path, simplicity is what I like of GNU & Linux, and I don't want use an OS that I can't control because it became tremendously complicated because it ended up that someone else is controlling you. I will finish installing Gentoo...

If you are "not man enough" to install Gentoo you can always fall back on Void Linux and its new derivative Project Trident

[aht0]

We already have eudev and elogind, hopefully we would get a ehomed, although it's not nearly as far as important.

You can just disable the freakin' module and employ 'tar' if need should ever rise. Looks like systemD folks have forgotten 'tar' exists and found another redundant feature to add into scope creep.

[skeevy420]

XFS's ability to resize is entirely based on the design of XFS and has nothing to do with systemd. You don't have to use systemd to manage partitions. Neither do you have to use systemd to manage /home. The systemd features added here are optional and not required to be used. So no one is going to take over your /home or your partitions. There is nothing wrong with systemd adding another way to do things. If you use systemd, you are not even required to start your services from a unit file and can still start services from a sysv init file. No one can seem to understand any of these facts.

So, if you go to FreeBSD, you are doing so for nothing based on a bunch of myths and false information.

1. I'm a systemd user. I just don't like file systems that have limitations built-in so the choice of XFS isn't my cup of tea. Even file systems out of Microsoft support shrinking

2. I want them to take over my /home partitions. I want some lazy ass commands like "systemctl backup home/$USER" and "systemctl restore home/$USER" that will one day make it so much easier to take my preferences from Arch to Fedora to Ubuntu and back again.

3. What myths and false information? I just like to try different things out and keep an open mind. That kind of contradicts my XFS statement, but fuck, having a preference for one point of view isn't the same as being anti-other point of view. For example, as much as y'all see me talk shit on BTRFS, that's what I'd have picked to integrate into systemd. But, anyhoo, I've just been waiting for better FreeBSD amdgpu support for my RX 580. A year ago the bolts and pieces were just getting put in place and the user experience for a desktop system wasn't that good. Gonna reboot into a GhostBSD live environment to see if that's changed after posting this.

[Danielsan]

I don't want stop systemd evolution. I just hope systemd will split in several packages like systemd-spawn, so if you need systemd-home you just install it. I mean that can't be the default setup; or at least during the installation time you should able to enable it.

[Danielsan]

If you are "not man enough" to install Gentoo you can always fall back on Void Linux and its new derivative Project Trident

At this point I prefer installing FreeBSD or other BSD like DragonFly...