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  • Support Is Being Worked On For Root File-System Support Over SMB Protocol

    Phoronix: Support Is Being Worked On For Root File-System Support Over SMB Protocol

    A Phoronix reader pointed out recent patches by a SUSE engineer working on support for mounting root file-systems over SMB (Samba)...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...ot-File-System

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    Serious question: is there any practical reason beyond the "Just for the Lulz!" tinkerer's justification ?

    I would have expected most of the remote-root needs being covered by NFSv4 and Kerberos authentication...

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    • #3
      I, for one, welcome our slow boot Overlords. Sounds like a hoot.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by DrYak View Post
        Serious question: is there any practical reason beyond the "Just for the Lulz!" tinkerer's justification ?

        I would have expected most of the remote-root needs being covered by NFSv4 and Kerberos authentication...
        I don't understand the objection. Of course there is practical reason behind the work?
        There are a lot of Windows or Linux servers running CIFS and not NFS that can handle a diskless station system.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by milkylainen View Post

          I don't understand the objection. Of course there is practical reason behind the work?
          There are a lot of Windows or Linux servers running CIFS and not NFS that can handle a diskless station system.
          But -- can it run Crysis?

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          • #6
            Wouldn't this cause permission issues? Windows and Linux have different permission systems, which can easily break the system.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by milkylainen View Post

              I don't understand the objection. Of course there is practical reason behind the work?
              There are a lot of Windows or Linux servers running CIFS and not NFS that can handle a diskless station system.
              For which the correct solution is to setup NFS, not try and work around SMB.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Slithery View Post

                For which the correct solution is to setup NFS, not try and work around SMB.
                NFS is such a trainwreck that I can't imagine any scenario in which using it would be the correct solution.
                Last edited by jacob; 09-13-2019, 07:05 PM. Reason: Fixed typo

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
                  Wouldn't this cause permission issues? Windows and Linux have different permission systems, which can easily break the system.
                  Welcome to horrible. SMB was made by IBM for Unix systems. So samba can do permissions Linux wants.

                  https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Set...ing_POSIX_ACLs

                  But its coming very unsupported when running Samba4 active directory.

                  Originally posted by Slithery View Post
                  For which the correct solution is to setup NFS, not try and work around SMB.
                  NFS has it own set of problems like having issues when you need to use user id 0.

                  Lot of ways both SMB and NFS are both borked up for doing remote providing of root.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
                    Welcome to horrible. SMB was made by IBM for Unix systems. So samba can do permissions Linux wants.

                    https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Set...ing_POSIX_ACLs

                    But its coming very unsupported when running Samba4 active directory.



                    NFS has it own set of problems like having issues when you need to use user id 0.

                    Lot of ways both SMB and NFS are both borked up for doing remote providing of root.
                    SMB has its own issues for sure, but in the real world its THE filesystem sharing protocol that everyone uses. Well except maybe some universities that still have networks of diskless Sun or HP Apollo workstations that have been installed in the 1980s and never updated since. From a purely practical PoV, I think that Linux should focus primarily on having a rock solid, world class support for SMB, both as client and as server, with feature complete support for root on SMB, authentication, ACLs and all the bells and whistles.

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