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  • retardxfce
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    Originally posted by tuxd3v View Post
    This monster. will implode some day..
    Just to clarify, are you talking about systemd, or the Linux Kernel?

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  • oiaohm
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    Originally posted by tuxd3v View Post
    This monster. will implode some day..
    Seems that the Linux Community lost focus, KISS, objectivity.

    In a pair of years...unfortunately, we will have to create a real init system... to correct the mistakes of almost a decade of craziest things that have been allowed..
    Sorry almost 2 decades of craziest things have been allowed. Remember PIDfile requirements to function correctly are only coming in the 5.1/5.2 Linux kernel so this year. So sysvinit was never the correct fit for Linux for the Linux kernel. Yes all the other alternatives to sysvinit were not a correct fit either.

    Linux choice of init has always been choice of what broken I wish to have today. Maybe by 5.2 kernel we will have chance at long last of a init system that functions correctly.

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  • Emmanuel Deloget
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    Originally posted by Cape View Post
    Making GTK in C was a mistake.
    This does not make much sense. GTK+ was released in 1998 - the year of the very first C++ standard. Before that time, no C++ compiler was remotely sane, so building an entire project (GTK+ + the Gimp) on that premise would have been a dangerous endeavor. Not to mention that some critical language bits were missing (that's why you got the moc compiler in Qt). And, of course, C is one of the only language that supports bindings (because of its rather simple linking model).

    I agree that the current Glib and GTK interfaces are complex but having the whole stuff in C is not as bad as you say. It's a very valid technical choice.

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  • Vistaus
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    Originally posted by ThiagoCMC View Post
    Looks like that Devuan is the only sane Linux distro out there these days!
    What about Void?

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  • ermo
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    Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post

    So the kernel is only 1.2 lines? That's very fucking impressive.
    Which begs the question:

    At which character column does said line wrap?

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  • aht0
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    Originally posted by nomadewolf View Post
    SystemD is not perfect.
    But it works surpringly well, for the huge behemoth it is...
    Usually i find that running it is way better than the alternative. Because there's no real alternative to it.
    Duh, really? Fact you did not know something does not render alternatives void.
    Init systems, alternative:OpenRC, runit, upstart
    Service managers: daemontools, runit has (compatible with daemontools btw) service supervision tools, freedt.
    There are some language extensions, which can do service monitoring/managing (Perl's Ubic or Python's Circus for example). Some Linux distro even ran Python executable instead of SysV init executable and all it's services were managed by Python scripts.

    It's very funny how it's 'easier' to re-invent huge behemoth of a wheel..

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  • Danielsan
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    The only solution I see with systemd is rewriting it completely in Rust...

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  • stingray454
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    Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post
    I went to AutoZone, bought an ODB2 reader, plugged it into the car's port, and it I couldn't figure out how to operate the ODB2 reader.

    Solution?

    A.: "buy a new car"

    Also, you got pissed that it resets the connection during a full upgrade where most sane installers stop and restart daemons....really?.
    "I usually leave my car on idle all the time since it's so convenient. Last time I left my car at the mechanic to change the exhaust they had the guts to stop the car while repairing it and then starting it up again! My god I'll never take it to a mechanic again, I'll just buy a new one."

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  • tuxd3v
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    This monster. will implode some day..
    Seems that the Linux Community lost focus, KISS, objectivity.

    In a pair of years...unfortunately, we will have to create a real init system... to correct the mistakes of almost a decade of craziest things that have been allowed..

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  • weedloser
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    Originally posted by Bsdisbetter View Post

    Even better:
    https://www.freebsd.org/where.html
    or for those who can't stand a command line (softies!):
    https://www.ghostbsd.org/download
    Even better:
    https://www.openbsd.org/faq/index.html

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