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  • #11
    I'm sure Michael just creates this topic to get the trolls on both sides out so he can have a good old chuckle.
    Every 1000 lines added (daily?) should trigger a new 'systemd reaches nnnn amount of lines' topic, then sit back and watch the show.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by ThiagoCMC View Post
      Solution?
      Have you tried this?
      systemctl networking restart
      systemctl NetworkManager restart

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      • #13
        If we're going to throw everything into SystemD, can't we at least write it in a typesafe language? Like wtf guys? Security much?

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        • #14
          C is typesafe. Well, mostly. Memory safe is probably the word you're looking for.

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          • #15
            I won't be impressed until it's up over 100 million lines of code. Clearly, systemd needs to absorb the kernel as a subproject if it's ever going to be taken seriously, along with the entirety of the Gnome and KDE projects.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by debianxfce View Post

              Better life with:
              sudo apt install wicd
              sudo apt remove networkmanager
              Even better:
              https://www.freebsd.org/where.html
              or for those who can't stand a command line (softies!):
              https://www.ghostbsd.org/download

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              • #17
                Originally posted by oleid View Post
                C is typesafe. Well, mostly. Memory safe is probably the word you're looking for.
                Except a massive amount of C code on Linux throws the type system out the window.. void and casts *everywhere* https://developer.gnome.org/gobject/...ject-Type.html

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by cb88 View Post

                  Except a massive amount of C code on Linux throws the type system out the window.. void and casts *everywhere* https://developer.gnome.org/gobject/...ject-Type.html
                  Yeah Gnome and stuff like GObject are like someone really wanting to be C++ and trying *so hard* but failing in hilarious ways.

                  I'm still sore about a RSS reader app I liked in 2005 or so which switched from custom data structures to GObject / GLib and its memory use exploded from 10 MB to 150 MB, just because GLib's g_tree uses something like five pointers per object. It's ridiculous. It's not even like the program needed a fancy data structure because even at 800 MHz reading every byte of a 10 MB array is trivial.

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                  • #19
                    > 1.2 millions LOC
                    > THIS KILLS MODULARITY! REEEEE

                    Love it 👍
                    ​​​​​​I will donate to systemd this year, just for the banter

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Zan Lynx View Post

                      Yeah Gnome and stuff like GObject are like someone really wanting to be C++ and trying *so hard* but failing in hilarious ways.

                      I'm still sore about a RSS reader app I liked in 2005 or so which switched from custom data structures to GObject / GLib and its memory use exploded from 10 MB to 150 MB, just because GLib's g_tree uses something like five pointers per object. It's ridiculous. It's not even like the program needed a fancy data structure because even at 800 MHz reading every byte of a 10 MB array is trivial.
                      SO MUCH THIS!
                      Making GTK in C was a mistake. You need more tools to manage memory when you bring in advanced GUIs and especially when you need to pass around weird big data structures.

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