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Originally posted by arokh View PostIt's weird that systemd creates so much fury from people who clearly are incompetent regarding operating system technology. It's like if the entire world's population of Down syndrome patients suddenly started opposing NASA's new rocket technology claiming it was better in the 70's.
No disrespect to people who have Down syndrome intended, just a joke.
It's not weird, this is actually expected to occur once you let idiots speak freely.
There are idiots opposing basic stuff like "the earth is round" and "vaccination is usually a good thing", there is still people believing "thoughts and prayers" matter, and much more.
You think all of them have any kind of understanding of what they are doing? No, they don't.
Idiots blindily believe lies spread by someone else due to unrelated illogic reasons, and reinforce each other's beliefs when grouped together.
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@starshipeleven
You're making a lot of sense, never thought of it that way. Systemd haters are actually _a lot_ like "flatearthers" who also refuse to accept scientifical facts
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Originally posted by FireBurn View PostSDDM still isn't starting for me under HyperV with systemd 240 or the latest git
You might get lucky doing a reinstall of systemd and systemd-sysvcompat, maybe libidn2, from a chroot.
I've never taken one side or the other on the systemd arguments, but systemd breaking my system 3 times in 3 days is enough to make me join the anti-systemd crowd and really light that fire under my ass to finally install Gentoo.
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Originally posted by hreindl View Post
what about blame the packagers?
is there no testing on your distribution before throw updates to users?
or if it only affects you maybe you have fucked up your system long ago
but hey, blame systemd is always an option...
The install before that was a fresh install on Monday because of systemd breakage. It lasted a day and a half. Again, all I did was Firefox & related crap and I watched X Company Season 3. That one had two updates -- a kernel and some other misc crap (went fine) and a systemd update that broke it. I did a reinstall after putzing around in grub recovery and not getting anywhere -- that was the first paragraph install.
Before that I was distro hopping after trying SUSE for a week and didn't have an actual install...just running crap off live images...
I seriously doubt that it was because I fucked up my system long ago.
Is "long ago" 36 hours and under from a fresh install to a systemd break?
Originally posted by hreindl View Post
nobody gives a damn, when people are multiple times told that the are spell somehting wrong it's their decision to stop doing so or accept that people think they are just dumb
https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/
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Yes, it is written systemd, not system D or System D, or even SystemD. And it isn't system d either. Why? Because it's a system daemon, and under Unix/Linux those are in lower case, and get suffixed with a lower case d. And since systemd manages the system, it's called systemd. It's that simple
There is no need to be such an asshole over an opinion I have due to a reading disability. I have dyslexia and all lower-caps makes letters jumble around. Adding a few upper-cases here and there makes stuff easier to read for me. That's why I prefer SystemD over systemd.
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Originally posted by skeevy420 View PostI've never taken one side or the other on the systemd arguments, but systemd breaking my system 3 times in 3 days is enough to make me join the anti-systemd crowd and really light that fire under my ass to finally install Gentoo.
Meanwhile I'll write a very smug post from OpenSUSE Tumbleweed where the latest systemd is v239 and an update will probably not appear until the maintainers are sure that everything is actually working.
Because that's their job, you know.
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Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostIf that's all that takes for you to switch, then great, who am I to stop someone from learning the Gentoo ways.
Meanwhile I'll write a very smug post from OpenSUSE Tumbleweed where the latest systemd is v239 and an update will probably not appear until the maintainers are sure that everything is actually working.
Because that's their job, you know.
Don't get me wrong, I know things like this can happen on Arch and rolling release distributions in general, but the fact that so many bugs made it past the testing repos...I'm more upset it made it past testing than I am of systemd itself...
FWIW, Gentoo is still on v239 as well. 99% of why I want to switch to Gentoo isn't systemd related. It's LTO/PGO/O3. For that it's either Clear, Solus, or Gentoo. I'd prefer to go old school Linux for that and use Gentoo. More-than-likely I'll use systemd with Gentoo as well.
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