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    Phoronix: Linux Is Getting New Network Libraries From Veteran systemd/BUS1 Developers

    Veteran systemd and BUS1 developers are David Herrmann and Tom Gundersen have been working on "nettools" as a new network configuration libraries project for Linux...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...-linux-network

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    Recordings are here:
    http://streaming.media.ccc.de/asg2018

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    • #3
      Originally posted by ptrwis View Post
      Right for livestreams but are past recordings working? I had tried earlier presentations to watch and it still only ever seems to jump to the livestream.
      Michael Larabel
      http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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      • #4
        If they're planning on making it universal will they still create a dependency on systemd? If so it wont be universal. There will always be GNU/Linux distros that do not adopt systemd.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Michael View Post

          Right for livestreams but are past recordings working? I had tried earlier presentations to watch and it still only ever seems to jump to the livestream.
          nettools talk
          https://media.ccc.de/v/ASG2018-209-nettools

          all recordings: https://media.ccc.de/b/asg2018

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          • #6
            Originally posted by cybertraveler View Post
            If they're planning on making it universal will they still create a dependency on systemd? If so it wont be universal. There will always be GNU/Linux distros that do not adopt systemd.
            The slide where this comes from mentions this: https://github.com/nettools/n-ipv4ll
            Code:
            REQUIREMENTS: 
                     The requirements for n-ipv4ll are:
            
                         Linux kernel >= 3.19
                         libc (e.g., glibc >= 2.16)
            
                      At build-time, the following software is required:
            
                         meson >= 0.41
                         pkg-config >= 0.29

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            • #7
              Originally posted by cybertraveler View Post
              If they're planning on making it universal will they still create a dependency on systemd? If so it wont be universal. There will always be GNU/Linux distros that do not adopt systemd.
              The project has nothing to do with systemd. And as droste mentioned, it has no dependency on systemd.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by dvdhrm View Post

                The project has nothing to do with systemd. And as droste mentioned, it has no dependency on systemd.
                "will they"?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by droste View Post

                  The slide where this comes from mentions this: https://github.com/nettools/n-ipv4ll
                  Code:
                  REQUIREMENTS:
                  The requirements for n-ipv4ll are:
                  
                  Linux kernel >= 3.19
                  libc (e.g., glibc >= 2.16)
                  
                  At build-time, the following software is required:
                  
                  meson >= 0.41
                  pkg-config >= 0.29
                  I found that already. I asked "will they still create a dependency on systemd?"

                  Keeping systemd optional is becoming problematic. I keep seeing projects that deliberately or accidently become dependent on systemd and then later an effort is made to decouple it (Gnome & Flatpak are two that come to mind). As they are systemd developers, I am concerned they will make a nice tool, it will become popular and then it will end up depending on systemd making it even harder for distros to use alternative service managers / init systems and alternatives to all the other systemd daemons.

                  I don't mind systemd so long as it remains a choice.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by cybertraveler View Post

                    "will they"?
                    No. We will not.

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