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  • Developers Start Getting Excited For MySQL 8.0, Several Talks From FOSDEM

    Phoronix: Developers Start Getting Excited For MySQL 8.0, Several Talks From FOSDEM

    MySQL 8.0 should presumably appear this year although no public release date has been set. At last weekend's FOSDEM conference in Brussels were many talks about developers and database administrators eager for MySQL 8.0, well, at least for those not on the MariaDB bandwagon...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...eatures-FOSDEM

  • #2
    What standards does MySQL support?
    Does it support SQL:2016?
    Does it even support SQL:2011? Fully?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL_compliance

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    • #3
      Originally posted by uid313 View Post
      What standards does MySQL support?
      Does it support SQL:2016?
      Does it even support SQL:2011? Fully?
      I don't think so, not that this is particularly important in the real world.

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      • #4
        ANSI SQL has been garbage since Joe Celko left the committee. They started introducing object-oriented crap in 1999 then XML shit and now it’s JSON that’s screwing up simple delimited ASCII files. Besides, even Microsoft encourages devs to use dot-Net functions instead of stored procs these days, so why not use MySQL? It may not be ANSI standard but the ANSI standard sux anyways.

        http://joecelkothesqlapprentice.blogspot.com/

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        • #5
          Originally posted by InsideJob View Post
          ANSI SQL has been garbage since Joe Celko left the committee. They started introducing object-oriented crap in 1999 then XML shit and now it’s JSON that’s screwing up simple delimited ASCII files. Besides, even Microsoft encourages devs to use dot-Net functions instead of stored procs these days, so why not use MySQL? It may not be ANSI standard but the ANSI standard sux anyways.

          http://joecelkothesqlapprentice.blogspot.com/
          or, you know, use postgresql - it's not bad either

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          • #6
            Originally posted by InsideJob View Post
            ANSI SQL has been garbage since Joe Celko left the committee. They started introducing object-oriented crap in 1999 then XML shit and now it’s JSON that’s screwing up simple delimited ASCII files. Besides, even Microsoft encourages devs to use dot-Net functions instead of stored procs these days, so why not use MySQL? It may not be ANSI standard but the ANSI standard sux anyways.
            Why anyone would use stored procedures these days is a mystery to me. It's very hard to integrate this into something resembling continuous life-cycle. In fact I'm currently in a project that involves moving logic out of the database.

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            • #7
              Pfft, PostgreSQL has had atomic DDL statements for years.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by phoronix View Post
                Brussels were many talks about developers and database administrators eager for MySQL 8.0, well, at least for those not on the MariaDB bandwagon...
                Bandwagon - an activity or cause that has suddenly become fashionable or popular.
                I know MariaDB is old, but I was surprised to find that it's 9 years old! Initial release was 22 January 2009.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Chewi View Post
                  Pfft, PostgreSQL has had atomic DDL statements for years.
                  MySQL had logical replication and storage engines for years...

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                  • #10
                    Isn't MariaDB just better? (honest question)

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