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  • Particle
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    Originally posted by berillions View Post
    I love Debian and i use it since i move to Linux 8 years ago. I always used Debian Stable and it will be the same thing for Stretch.
    But i have a small problem actually. I received my new Desktop with an AMD Ryzen which is "totally" supported since the kernel 4.11 ...

    So someone has an idea to have the latest Kernel on Stretch before the real package from Debian packager ?
    I never compile the kernel myself so if a repository exist, it will good.

    Thanks
    It's easy to build a kernel if you want to. You'll need to install some prerequisites. Download the source, extract it somewhere, enter the extracted directory, do a config, build, then install the result with your package manager.

    1) Install prerequisites: sudo apt-get install fakeroot kernel-package libncurses5-dev libssl-dev -y
    2) Download source: http://www.kernel.org
    3) Extract: tar xf sourcepackagename.tar.xz
    4) Enter its directory: cd sourcepackagename
    5) Generate a config: make menuconfig (it will default to whatever options your current booted kernel was compiled with, but you can change anything or nothing--save when done)
    6) Extra step: nano .config / ctrl+w "CONFIG_SYSTEM_TRUSTED_KEYS" / set value to blank (ie "") / ctrl+c / y
    7) Compile: time fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image -j16
    8) Enter directory with resulting deb: cd ..
    9) Install resulting deb: sudo dpkg -i kernelname.deb
    10) Reboot

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  • davidvt
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    can i use RC4 now, and will get fixed if Debian 9 get's out or better wait a bit on full release ?

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  • suberimakuri
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    Okay cheers. Yeah signed unsigned was a pain.

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  • dungeon
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    Originally posted by suberimakuri View Post
    If already on Sid does this apply? "Experimental 4.11 is bulded with gcc-7 stretch and testing users shouldn't touch that"
    Actually that was desinformation from me as i readed just changelog there which mentioned fix for gcc 7 and gcc 7.1 is there, so i tought it is builded already with that, but it is not it is against 6.3 so you might try it...

    edit: Blah kernl works on stretch, but actually complain something about efi something, hm... it might be slightly broken

    I can't recommending this one from experimental, very recently they decided to not support Secure Boot with stretch actually, and before it was release blocker and was always two kernels of same version one signed and one unsigned, and now there is only one so probably some misconfiguretion leftover, but yeah something is not proper there with that 4.11 build from experimental
    Last edited by dungeon; 28 May 2017, 07:59 PM.

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  • suberimakuri
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    Thanks dungeon, that's timely.
    I was just looking at moving from sid's 4.9 to the trunk 4.11.
    If already on Sid does this apply? "Experimental 4.11 is bulded with gcc-7 stretch and testing users shouldn't touch that"

    Might try liquorix instead.

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  • dungeon
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    Originally posted by J?rnS View Post

    You can take 4.11 from experimental. But be careful: I've tried it and my rig doesn't boot at all with 4.11. Ryzen 1600X with MSI B350M Gaming Pro, HyperX 16G/2667 RAM, RX580/8G.
    Experimental 4.11 is bulded with gcc-7 stretch and testing users shouldn't touch that

    Other than recompile that distro kernel (if nothing to test how Ryzen is fast at the task also ), maybe linux-libre repo they have 4.11.3 kernel or liquorix repo that have 4.11.3 on sid but with gcc-6 Both unusual kernels i know and heavy patched to add or to miss features Siduction probably have something, but these are all kernels with unusual patches plus minus - might be good or broken

    Easiest is to re/compile if he wanna debian proper one or waith for backports after stretch is released or so.

    Also i am not sure what is wrong with default 4.9 kernel, Ryzen should work fine with that... but yeah maybe something else on mobos isn't supported fine yet, sound chips, network, sensors, etc... usual pletora of linux beauty.

    Maybe liquorix works, sounds like that can be used currently on stretch too... but no idea if it will on Ryzen, heavy patched so no guarantee

    https://liquorix.net/
    Last edited by dungeon; 28 May 2017, 01:30 PM.

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  • J?rnS
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    Originally posted by berillions View Post
    I love Debian and i use it since i move to Linux 8 years ago. I always used Debian Stable and it will be the same thing for Stretch.
    But i have a small problem actually. I received my new Desktop with an AMD Ryzen which is "totally" supported since the kernel 4.11 ...

    So someone has an idea to have the latest Kernel on Stretch before the real package from Debian packager ?
    I never compile the kernel myself so if a repository exist, it will good.

    Thanks
    You can take 4.11 from experimental. But be careful: I've tried it and my rig doesn't boot at all with 4.11. Ryzen 1600X with MSI B350M Gaming Pro, HyperX 16G/2667 RAM, RX580/8G.

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  • pmorph
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    Originally posted by debianxfce View Post
    There are far less bugs in testing than in stable or sid. And I have done a couple of bug reports to Debian in 3 years. Debian should drop the stable distribution, it is a waste of resources. There is enough testing in experimental and unstable phases. Keep writing non sense and keep trolling.
    Testing has less *reported* bugs. Stable (most likely) has far far less actual bugs, and far less serious bugs waiting to be found.

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  • berillions
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    I love Debian and i use it since i move to Linux 8 years ago. I always used Debian Stable and it will be the same thing for Stretch.
    But i have a small problem actually. I received my new Desktop with an AMD Ryzen which is "totally" supported since the kernel 4.11 ...

    So someone has an idea to have the latest Kernel on Stretch before the real package from Debian packager ?
    I never compile the kernel myself so if a repository exist, it will good.

    Thanks

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  • dungeon
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    Originally posted by debianxfce View Post
    Use Debian testing to have better feeling. Messing with stable and sid makes you crazy.
    Ah now we talk about emotions and feelings points, are you an expert in parapsychology or some other pseudoscience of choice or something

    My nose smells that your mentality wanna Manjaro, it is not pure Arch and they don't make releases like Debian Stable which you hate so much... just switch to Manjaro as that is better for what you want and stop trolling

    Believe me, Manjaro is right for you as they even have exact like a Debian repo naming scheme but it means entirely something else. Their Stable is like Debian's Testing, their Testing is like Debian's Unstable, their Unstable is like Debian's Experimental... and they don't do something like Debian Stable, Old.Stable and LTS which is exactly what you don't want. Also they use XFCE as default, also they have not default menu in XFCE, etc... it is exactly what your mentality wants and what you trolling about You see all what you want is already available and you just use wrong distro. These facts might move your aura to be exact in place where your body is, but as always no guarantee

    Or maybe you just have an girlfriend who uses Manjaro and now all your head is full of love bullshit so you don't have right idea what to expect in reality, that might happen also
    Last edited by dungeon; 28 May 2017, 05:11 AM.

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