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Originally posted by debianxfce View PostIt is not luck when Oibaf ppa is working in Debian testing Xfce.
When ubuntu is made from debian, compatibility does exists.
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I'm not too happy about the recent changes that came to Testing.
gcc-6 now defaults to -fpie -fPIE for all compilations. While this is necessary for ASLR (Address Space Layout Randomization) to fully work and thereby to increase security, do I think they went overboard by enabling this directly within the compiler and they should have instead put it into the distro's default CFLAGS at the very least.
So now everything, from kernel, to libraries, to binaries, to whatever a user compiles gets compiled as position independent code. Even things such as glxgears, /bin/true, xclock or mahjongg are now a little bit saver from hacks. Not that hackers haven't already found ways around ASLR - they have.
The bad thing about all this is that it makes code run slower by 3%-5% usually. Not to mention that some code now won't compile such as the 4.8.x kernels and one needs to modify the Makefiles and disable it with -fno-pie whenever it causes problems.
TL;DR: distro-wide performance regression incoming, sacrificial offerings are being made to appease the Gods of Security, absolute addressing has reached expiration date.
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Originally posted by dungeon View Post
Release is planned with 4.10 kernel
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Originally posted by debianxfce View PostJust add these lines to kernel Makefile, after line 656
ifneq ($(CONFIG_FRAME_WARN),0).....:
# force no-pie for distro compilers that enable pie by default
KBUILD_CFLAGS += $(call cc-option, -fno-pie)
KBUILD_CFLAGS += $(call cc-option, -no-pie)
KBUILD_AFLAGS += $(call cc-option, -fno-pie)
I have seen only speed and stability increase with drm-next-4.10-wip kernel ,OIbaf ppa Mesa and wine-staging games.
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Originally posted by franglais125 View PostActually, I think that the kernel for Debian 9 will be 4.9, since it's a LTS kernel. Here, from the maintainer:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-kern.../msg00099.html
Even GKH wasn't sure totaly when announcing LTS plan, so probably depends what he pick up... otherwise if Canonical pick up 4.10 that is possibility too, etc...
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