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  • #11
    Originally posted by debianxfce View Post
    Debian "stable" is a myth,waste of resources and for release believers. It has almost same amount bugs than testing and stable breaks when using testing and unstable packages. You are using very old software with stable. Much better is the rolling release testing distribution.
    I suppose that may (almost) be the case, if you are running a mostly out-of-the box system. But with a system that has tweaks all around the place, using testing or sid can be rather a hair-pulling inducing experience.. like having an unbootable system after a simple apt-get update (happened to me with both testing and sid, so Im back to stable for several years already).

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    • #12
      He might not understand what stable dependable distribution means

      Stable is perfect for user tweaking, user can even fix/rebuild just couple packages if he need/want, setup apps he want to be up to date and voila that is it will stay like that... no need to worry that something else will break there for years

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      • #13
        Originally posted by debianxfce View Post
        Debian "stable" is a myth,waste of resources and for release believers. It has almost same amount bugs than testing and stable breaks when using testing and unstable packages. You are using very old software with stable. Much better is the rolling release testing distribution.
        Stable doesn't mean bugfree. Stable means if something works, it should not break after update. And if something does not work, but you have workaround, this workaround will work and doesn't break after update.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by horizonbrave View Post
          why other major distros don't call them self gnu/linux but just linux?
          Debian has other systems/kernels available (kfreebsd, hurd), so they specifically note userspace and kernel, whereas other distros don't bother (much to the disliking of GNU, which wants specific mention in the name).

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          • #15
            Yep Debian can be whatever/whatever, but most popular flavor is GNU/Linux.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by debianxfce View Post
              Debian Testing "rolling release" is a myth,waste of resources and for no-release believers. It has much more bugs than stable and stable should be used with backported packages, NOT from Testing or Unstable. You are using very stable but old software with stable. Much better is the OpenSUSE Leap distribution.
              fixed.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by heliosh View Post
                Let's see how rolling testing is, after freeze
                The funny thing is I remember him saying that there is no such thing as freezing in Debian testing... He is in for a surprise soon!

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                • #18
                  There is no surprises, testing freeze is planed... it begins in less then two months:

                  • 2016-11-05: Transition freeze (general freeze of transitions)
                  • 2017-01-05: "Soft" freeze (no new packages, no re-entry, normal migrations)
                  • 2017-02-05: Full freeze
                  It is usual 6 months freeze, first 2 months soft, 1 less and 3 months full... well if everything goes according to the plan

                  That is how it is in Debian sort of 18 months rolling then 6 months freeze and again...

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                  • #19
                    In Debian Testing i mean of course, why debianxfce think something else no one knows

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