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Originally posted by blackout23 View PostMichael
Originally posted by blackout23 View PostMichael: Run "snap find" instead of "snap find *" and you see more snaps.
Why shouldn't snappy be able to declare runtimes or frameworks that apps use?
After doing "snap find" instead, I did find more snaps to use. The only two that were worth testing, to me at least, were Krita and VLC. Krita ran correctly, and from what I can tell: it does seem to be function. I am not an artist though, so my "testing" was little more than "Does this tool work? Yup. Can I open files? Yup. Can I change settings. Yup. Cool".
VLC ran, but something is definitely wrong. It's not taking my window theme, and I'm not even sure what theme it IS trying to take. Looksl ike a Windows 95/98 application.
Originally posted by blackout23 View PostWhy shouldn't snappy be able to declare runtimes or frameworks that apps use?All opinions are my own not those of my employer if you know who they are.
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Originally posted by boudewijnrempt View PostI don't care about wayland, I don't care about mir, I don't care about those so-called "security issues" when snap is running on X11, I think whining about package sizes is dumb and whining about how it's harder to keep systems updated with the latest libraries is dumber. I care about getting my application in the hands of users. Michael Hall created a snapcraft file for Krita in his spare time, with two or three iterations it worked, and all I as an application author has to do is run the script and upload the result to the app store. And now the result runs in lots of other distributions! Magic! I'm very happy -- though the official way of distributing Krita for Linux will remain appimages.
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Originally posted by Cerberus View Post
It does hold if you twist words, when you download daily updates you wont see a huge increase in download size, overall size is not important, we arent on limited bandwidths anymore, so why should I care if I download additional gigabytes in a certain period? What users dont want is downloading much more every day when they update, and that would not happen because applications are not updated at the same time. Daily size is not much bigger, that is the only thing users might care about, and even that only if they are on slow connections. It is not like users stare at the monitor while updates are downloading, doing absolutely nothing.They do other things unless you are the type that likes staring at the updating process and not doing anything else while it is downloading, 99% of users dont do that, they surf the Internet, chat on Skype, listen to music etc.
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Originally posted by Cerberus View Postoverall size is not important, we arent on limited bandwidths anymore, so why should I care if I download additional gigabytes in a certain period?
It is not like users stare at the monitor while updates are downloading, doing absolutely nothing.They do other things unless you are the type that likes staring at the updating process and not doing anything else while it is downloading, 99% of users dont do that, they surf the Internet, chat on Skype, listen to music etc.
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Originally posted by Mystro256 View Post
You really underestimate how shitty some internet connections are. There's a huge amount of people dealing with dial up (56Kps or less) as their only option, and I'm not even talking about third world countries here. Then we also need to consider the people who don't even have stable or affordable power available to them, thus can't afford to wait 6 hours for libreoffice to download.
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Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostWho is this "we" you are talking about? here high-speed internet coverage is very spotty,
Something that isn't hampered by large amount of downloading.
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Originally posted by pythoneer View Post
Ok i see. Snap is only for US citizens because US citizens are not limited by bandwidths. But i'll guess other people (95% of the world population) is seeing this differently. I live in Germany and people have bandwidth limitations. Throughput and/or max num of Gb per month. I am not one of them but they exist. Daily size is much bigger and while you are updating significantly more data, your awesome Youtube session or skype can be disrupted. Sry but i can't really understand how anyone cannot not see the disadvantage in this.
So I guess Snap is not for rural or poor people either.
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