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Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.8 Deprecates Btrfs
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Originally posted by anarki2 View PostOnly the zealots and fanboys did not see this coming. ZFS has a 10 years proven track record
Originally posted by anarki2 View Postis ... has Oracle backing it
Originally posted by anarki2 View PostWhere did you get Btrfs? SUSE and RHEL. And now only on SUSE.
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Originally posted by pal666 View Postonly butthurt imbeciles would post such bullshit. linux zfs has zero years of track record.
guess what? btrfs has oracle backing it too. on linux, while zfs has negative oracle backing on linux.
no, still on rhel too, moron. and everywhere else
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Originally posted by henrik View PostNeither ZFS or BTRFS gives me what I need so I just run ext4 with an intrusion detection system + regular backups. I need to know about (and recover from) if files are modified or deleted, no matter if it was me, a virus, a kernel bug or crappy hardware that did it. ZFS and BTRFS only takes care of the last two cases (or very last one). Only an intrusion detection system (which keeps track of all my files) + regular backup can cover for all cases. Or?
The intrusion detection system is really simple. It's a little command called "integrit" which builds a database of all files and then lets me diff changes month over month.
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Originally posted by Stellarwind View Post
Obviously snapshots are poor mans backup, filesystem won't protect you from a hardware failures, but can warn you in some cases, however zfs (or btrfs) can simplify some of your operations compared to ext4. Snapshots save space for backups (you still need another box for it), zfs send/receive backups are faster. zfs diff can show you difference between snapshots etc.
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Originally posted by nanonyme View PostI disagree on the level that Btrfs and ZFS have inbuilt RAID which does protect you from hardware failures to the extent that there's redundancy in your data storage.
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Originally posted by Stellarwind View PostOfc, in the context of using zfs snapshots as a backup, what I meant was that it won't help if controller suddenly starts sending garbage to disks or memory corruption etc, hence snapshots != true backup
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Originally posted by nanonyme View PostWell, true backups have same problems, really. But having ECC RAM, checksumming filesystem, RAID, redundant backups and routine recoveries to verify backups aren't corrupted helps a lot
full backups are mostly against "stuff that nukes the machine".
Snapshots are convenient for other reasons, (like accidental deletions, or fast rollback of updates) not for backup.Last edited by starshipeleven; 18 May 2016, 02:28 PM.
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