It's A Long Road Ahead To Get Ubuntu Snappy On The Desktop

[phoronix]

Phoronix: It's A Long Road Ahead To Get Ubuntu Snappy On The Desktop

The session concerning bringing Snappy package management to the Ubuntu Linux desktop just ended during today's Ubuntu Online Summit...

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...ktop-Long-Road

[afeder]

Good

Canonical has made many weird decision with regards to the Ubuntu desktop. This isn't one of them.

[uid313]

But this will just cause fragmentation.

Before we had RPM and DEB, now we're going to have Snappy too.
And Snappy will be some Ubuntu-only thing?
Then most people packaging for Linux will only package for Ubuntu since it is the most popular distribution?

[nightmarex]

But this will just cause fragmentation.

Before we had RPM and DEB, now we're going to have Snappy too.
And Snappy will be some Ubuntu-only thing?
Then most people packaging for Linux will only package for Ubuntu since it is the most popular distribution?

I really need to look into snappy but if the packages come with human readable (setup) script and are unpackable so we can still unpack them and install them manually (as I do on Arch with .deb packages) it won't be the end of the world.

[afeder]

But this will just cause fragmentation.

Every development since CP-40/CMS has caused fragmentation. Do you run CP-40/CMS on your computer?

[Pajn]

But this will just cause fragmentation.

Before we had RPM and DEB, now we're going to have Snappy too.
And Snappy will be some Ubuntu-only thing?
Then most people packaging for Linux will only package for Ubuntu since it is the most popular distribution?

If you have two bad systems and develops one that you hope will work out better, is that just fragmentation?

[madjr]

But this will just cause fragmentation.

Before we had RPM and DEB, now we're going to have Snappy too.
And Snappy will be some Ubuntu-only thing?
Then most people packaging for Linux will only package for Ubuntu since it is the most popular distribution?

RPM and DEB should had died long ago on the desktop and kept mainly for the server images.

GLAD steam didn't adopt rpm or deb, or it would had been a mess...

PPA's which is ubuntu only for the most part is also going away thankfully.

This will only benefit the real average desktop user. We should all be aware that just a handful of distros/flavors target user friendliness and they are already 99% of them ubuntu based.

The other distros that don't target me can keep doing whatever user unfriendly crap they want...

[jo-erlend]

But this will just cause fragmentation.

Before we had RPM and DEB, now we're going to have Snappy too.
And Snappy will be some Ubuntu-only thing?
Then most people packaging for Linux will only package for Ubuntu since it is the most popular distribution?

They will be Ubuntu-only if only Ubuntu chooses to use them. But unlike other package systems like deb and rpm, Snaps doesn't cause any conflicts, so there's nothing preventing other distros from adding support. The package system itself is very easy to use, both as a user and as a packager and of course, one big benefit is that they won't necessarily require root and included scripts certainly won't. To my knowledge, the Snappy system itself doesn't have any dependencies that should make it difficult to support them.

You can also easily convert packages from other systems to Snappy, but it might be more difficult to convert snaps to other systems, because snaps doesn't rely on any particular structure. That is to say; manual conversion should be easy, but automated conversion will probably be difficult.

[edoantonioco]

Is this tied to Mir? or can this work on any distro (no matter if Xorg or Wayland)?

[kalin]

It's look like very well designed package manager also solve problem with broken dependencies.
I hope it will be succesful.