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  • Awesomeness
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    Hello is just a small GUI for WebRTC which is a standard for web browsers.

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  • Anvil
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    Originally posted by gbcox View Post
    Regarding Firefox, if you reference back to the mailing list thread you'll quickly realize getting rid of Firefox as default just isn't a realistic proposal; on multiple levels. If the default were to change, the logical choice would be Chromium not Epiphany. There are some packaging challenges which now prevent Chromium from being available currently in the Fedora repositories, but the odds would be greater that those problems would be solved before another browser would have the features and functionality to be able to compete.
    Firefox IMO is becoming a tad Bloated with useless Features. Features that should remain a Addon, just like that _Hello_ crap. i bet more people would use Skype than that Hello crap. but it wont matter whether they remove firefox as the default Browser as it'll always remain in the repo just like Thunderbird ( which isnt the default email client ) plusi think E[iphany with Webkit would be better than to wait till Servo matures , by the time Servo comes out Webkit/Blink will be pretty much Mature. lets not stop at _Hello_ , this new Pocket crap. an also this Reader List crap,

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  • Awesomeness
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    Originally posted by gbcox View Post
    the logical choice would be Chromium not Epiphany. There are some packaging challenges which now prevent Chromium from being available currently in the Fedora repositories, but the odds would be greater that those problems would be solved before another browser would have the features and functionality to be able to compete.
    Chrome / Chromium cares less about Gnome integration than Firefox. Why on earth would it be a more likely option? Also: Gnome is not about many features. They already removed features on several occasions. I last tested Gnome Web under the still-current Fedora 21 release. That thing even crashed on occasion when visiting Gnome's own Extension page. Once it can browse Gnome's own web presence, it'll become default. No matter what mailing lists say.

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  • gbcox
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    Regarding Firefox, if you reference back to the mailing list thread you'll quickly realize getting rid of Firefox as default just isn't a realistic proposal; on multiple levels. If the default were to change, the logical choice would be Chromium not Epiphany. There are some packaging challenges which now prevent Chromium from being available currently in the Fedora repositories, but the odds would be greater that those problems would be solved before another browser would have the features and functionality to be able to compete.

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  • liam
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    Originally posted by Anvil View Post
    stuff knows when Servo is gonna be usable let alone released, last i heard possibly late this year ( with an Alpha )
    They're supposed to be releasing an apk anytime now for testing.
    Obviously "final" versions are at least a year away. Regardless, cef gets you blink, immediately, rather than having to stick with WebKit.

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  • Anvil
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    Originally posted by liam View Post
    It's called Chromium Extensions Framework (iirc), and it's something servo is supposed to adhere to as well.
    IF gnome wrote to those apis they'd be able to switch between implementations.
    stuff knows when Servo is gonna be usable let alone released, last i heard possibly late this year ( with an Alpha )

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  • liam
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    Originally posted by Anvil View Post
    i think there Goal is to use the Extensions Google Chrome/Chromium uses

    problem with Epiphany it can only use a Single Process, not Multiple atm
    It's called Chromium Extensions Framework (iirc), and it's something servo is supposed to adhere to as well.
    IF gnome wrote to those apis they'd be able to switch between implementations.

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  • liam
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    Originally posted by RahulSundaram View Post
    There is no serious current proposal to switch away from Firefox and Fedora 22 Firefox already using GTK3. Using GTK 3 alone does not make Firefox use Wayland however. Firefox is built using a completely separate UI layer with only some parts using GTK.
    While no formal proposal has been made, as such, michael cantanzaro has expressed the view (expectation?) that epiphany/web should replace firefox "when it's ready".
    Firefox needs gtk3, which is not quite there yet (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627699). The wayland readiness is yet further away (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=635134).
    The problem, iirc, is that michael stransky is the only one working in this area regularly.

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  • toyotabedzrock
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    Those SSL changes should have been made in 22!

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  • RahulSundaram
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    Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
    So some certification is more important than security. Good to know.
    Not what I said. Both are important and you haven't shown that libressl offers any significant advantage for security. Also, FIPS isn't some random certification but an absolute requirement in several major industries including govt and finance.

    Fedora's packaging tools are absolutely horrible. There is a reason I do all my Fedora packaging in OBS.
    With OBS and Kiwi it should be indeed relatively easy to create a LibreSSL-using distribution.
    Sure. Anyone can create a remix using copr and livecd-tools as well but that kinda misses the point. This isn't primarily a packaging problem. Introducing libressl as an option in a repository especially using copr is fairly easy. What is going to be non-trivial is making it default in the official repository and that requires new code development, security review and extensive testing after demonstrating that a switch is worth all this effort.

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