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    drspinderwalf
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  • drspinderwalf
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    Originally posted by dungeon View Post
    Killed by systemd.

    And counting...
    Shut up. This had nothing to do with systemd. I'm getting really sick of you morons bringing systemd into every single news story.

    And I smell some ugly journalism on Michael's part. He completely omits the important parts in this (possibly to make this sound like a systemd thing):

    at the time, there was no LXDE tasksel in Debian and certainly no Lubuntu around. CrunchBang filled a gap and that was nifty.
    It's pretty obvious that his argument was that #! doesn't fill a gap anymore, really. It was just debian with some defaults changed.

    The omissions plus the sensationalized title grants Michael the "shittiest journalist of the year" award. Shame on you for the horrible quality of your articles. You keep talking about how you have so little time to do anything when the only thing you do well (your test suite) is hidden amongst a million different articles that spread inaccuracies and controversy.

    Shame on you.

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  • dungeon
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    Killed by systemd.

    And counting...
    Last edited by dungeon; 06 February 2015, 03:21 PM.

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  • skurk
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  • skurk
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    About SystemD

    Originally posted by grndzro View Post
    Dude....just go use PClinuxOS and leave the rest of us the hell alone.

    Meanwhile I'll be happy with my Opensuse XFCE, Gnome 3 Arch Linux, and working on getting Ubuntu 15.04 Enlightenment 19 up and running. The rest of the world has decided that fragmented crap and fuc*ed up init scripts are terrible. Live with it or go make your own alternatives and be praised by the 20 other people that share your irrational hatred of Systemd.
    The problem with SystemD is not the techonology itself but rather that it is Linux specific and lots of other software hook into it. Software no longer works on BSD, OSX and Linux like it used to. That was one of Linux' strengths, and what set it apart from the bastard child of operating systems; Windows.

    SystemD is turning Linux into a Windows of sorts. Isolated, lonely and with lots of special stuff that doesn't work on other closely related operating systems. I don't hate SystemD for what it is, but I am a bit worried about the impact and consequences it will have on the POSIX eco-system.

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  • skurk
    Junior Member

  • skurk
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    Originally posted by grndzro View Post
    Dude....just go use PClinuxOS and leave the rest of us the hell alone.

    Meanwhile I'll be happy with my Opensuse XFCE, Gnome 3 Arch Linux, and working on getting Ubuntu 15.04 Enlightenment 19 up and running. The rest of the world has decided that fragmented crap and fuc*ed up init scripts are terrible. Live with it or go make your own alternatives and be praised by the 20 other people that share your irrational hatred of Systemd.
    The problem with SystemD is not the techonology itself but rather that it is Linux specific and lots of other software hook into it. Software no longer works on BSD, OSX and Linux like it used to. That was one of Linux' strengths, and what set it apart from the bastard child of operating systems; Windows.

    SystemD is turning Linux into a Windows of sorts. Isolated, lonely and with lots of special stuff that doesn't work on other closely related operating systems. I don't hate SystemD for what it is, but I am a bit worried about the impact and consequences it will have on the POSIX eco-system.

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  • pal666
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  • pal666
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    crazy ppl make new distro instead of adding package to existing one

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  • zanny
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  • zanny
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    Originally posted by boffo View Post
    I think there are too many desktop distributions. It's a waist of human power for a saturated market. I think if you have the passion at building distros, maybe you should dedicate your time at developing a distro for a different market. For example a linux distro specifically design for robots. No graphics, but RTOS, easy to install, to program using wifi and why not with a gpgpu for developing vision algorithms. The challenges are very different from a desktop distro.
    Or just work on one of the other distros. You don't have to run the whole show to be productive, there is a huge amount of work to be done pretty much everywhere.

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  • boffo
    Senior Member

  • boffo
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    I think there are too many desktop distributions. It's a waist of human power for a saturated market. I think if you have the passion at building distros, maybe you should dedicate your time at developing a distro for a different market. For example a linux distro specifically design for robots. No graphics, but RTOS, easy to install, to program using wifi and why not with a gpgpu for developing vision algorithms. The challenges are very different from a desktop distro.

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  • NotMine999
    Senior Member

  • NotMine999
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    Not A Bad Idea

    Originally posted by Creak View Post
    I think it's a wise decision. And I'm sure that a guy with his experience would be widely welcome in any other distribution out there.
    Maybe it's time for Linux to stop spreading new distributions every day and find common grounds?
    I would be happy if the Linux community could settle on 2 or 3 ways to do the same thing.

    That approach appears to work with:

    GNOME, KDE, the "others", and the "lightweights"

    NTPD and OpenNTPD

    GNU family of compilers and CLANG

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  • justmy2cents
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  • justmy2cents
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    Originally posted by cocklover View Post
    So progress is Corporations like Red Hat imposing systemd to crush other alternative distros to Fedora and Red Hat? Buying Centos to changing his proupose to not be red hat alternative? Sure, the progress is more like Getting walmarks on your town crushing local and small businnes atended by his owners yep. Embrace the progress. Embrace systemd. Embrace Red Hat.
    meanwhile, Redhat is one of biggest contributors to Linux and OSS.

    how CentOS is not RHEL alternative anymore? CentOS is still 1:1 RHEL and still free, just as it was. the only thing that changed is lower delays to updates

    what work on Fedora is not accessible to other distros and at the same time it would have crushing impact?

    if you try trolling... at least chose topic you at least have some clue. systemd is not the topic you could present any opinion that makes sense, since you have no clue how it works or why it works as it does

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  • NotMine999
    Senior Member

  • NotMine999
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    "Haters Gonna Hate", huh?

    Originally posted by grndzro View Post
    Dude....just go use PClinuxOS
    Fair enough comment.....

    Originally posted by grndzro View Post
    and leave the rest of us the hell alone.

    Meanwhile I'll be happy with my Opensuse XFCE, Gnome 3 Arch Linux, and working on getting Ubuntu 15.04 Enlightenment 19 up and running. The rest of the world has decided that fragmented crap and fuc*ed up init scripts are terrible. Live with it or go make your own alternatives and be praised by the 20 other people that share your irrational hatred of Systemd.
    Totally unwarranted "attitude" and actually quite outright inflammatory...and does nothing more than "fanning the SystemD flamewar".

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