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Originally posted by Krejzi View PostOn an unrelated note, a new version of dbus-glib library was released yesterday and it had a rather strange but funny codename:
The ?I've come to the conclusion that Debian should choose Russ Allbery
to be its new init system? release.
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/dbus/dbus-glib/tree/NEWS#n8
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On an unrelated note, a new version of dbus-glib library was released yesterday and it had a rather strange but funny codename:
The ?I've come to the conclusion that Debian should choose Russ Allbery
to be its new init system? release.
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Originally posted by chrisb View PostI don't think there is any real evidence of a conspiracy, just opinions of some developers eg this guy http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/news/a-li...spiracy-theory
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Also not sure that Linus et all agree that systemd is so awesome:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/11/22/313
It's too old. I can't remember what I was thinking about the world in 2011.
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Originally posted by chrisb View PostI don't think there is any real evidence of a conspiracy, just opinions of some developers eg this guy http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/news/a-li...spiracy-theory
Very odd stance. Anyway, as that article says, I don't think the Gnome devs are deliberately breaking stuff that other software depends on, but they just don't give a shit when they do so. One recent example being they broke gnome keyring desktop integration for every other desktop, because they made it require a dbus service that no other desktop implemented, and nobody finds out about this until the new gnome keyring packages get rolled out by distributions, and by then it's too late. So yeah, "I don't know what XFCE is" lies, but happy to break it regardless...
Also not sure that Linus et all agree that systemd is so awesome:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/11/22/313
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Originally posted by Gusar View PostCan you provide a link to that quote? It's ridiculous, he wants to force *systemd* maintainers in Debian to come up with alternatives for systemd interfaces. Not supporters of other init systems, not maintainers of packages that rely on systemd interfaces, but *systemd* maintainers. That is, I can only repeat, ridiculous.
This was Jackson's reply to Allbery's position statement.
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Originally posted by erendorn View PostWell, is he? Do you have any evidence to support a conspiracy?
Something that would disprove the "it's easier to make it that way, so we made it that way, and independent maintainers seems to like what we did"?
?I guess you have to decide if you are a GNOME app, an Ubuntu app, or an Xfce app unfortunately? And I have no idea what Xfce is or does, sorry. It is my hope that you are a GNOME app.?
Also not sure that Linus et all agree that systemd is so awesome:
Christ, stop making it sound like we would *want* systemd to do even more odd things.
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Originally posted by GreatEmerald View PostWhile continuing my work on case 2, I found something quite interesting with regards to Jackson's behaviour:
In other words, he really does believe that there is some conspiracy going on... And he thinks that making a crusade against it is his duty, which comes above the mere needs of the maintainers. That explains why he is so insistent on the original L, despite the fact that it's harmful to Upstart... And why he fears "facts on the ground" so much.
Sigh...
@Annabel: Are you effin' kidding? Serious question.
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