Systemd Is The Future Of Debian

[xeekei]

Except apparently you have the right to tell them to take the time to support two init systems.

I am sorry..? I have never said any such thing. You'll have to explain this one to me.

[erendorn]

launchd

Indeed. Funnily enough, they decided to go in house on license grounds (considering that porting was not much easier that doing something from scratch). Ironic, if you ask me.

[erendorn]

and this is bad, the less proprietary software, the better.

That does not make any sense. If you value "no software" higher than "some proprietary software", you don't really deserve the world you're living in (well, at least, the computer you are using).

[pal666]

Conveniently forgetting ChromeOS, I guess.

chromeos shares upstart usage with ubuntu only by accident - author of upstart conveniently is working on chromeos
while authors of all other ubunty-specific shit aren't

[pal666]

Mir was created because Wayland wouldn't "fit their needs"

wayland did fit their needs, they just lacked clue to understand that

[pal666]

I fail to see anything Canonical possibly wouldn't be able to do with systemd that they are able to do with Upstart.

impose cla

[pal666]

Since when creating a new free software project (Mir) is a "crap" move?

right from point when you start to require cla, kid

[pal666]

It's just a impression, or almost nobody care about the technical differences between systemd and upstart?

almost everyone cares. cla is what made upstart suck technically compared to systemd, otherwise systemd developers would just rework upstart into systemd

[pal666]

it's not worse than using permissive licensed software
but you could fork it anyway if you don't like the CLA

in my opinion GPL > GPL + CLA > permissive license

in my opinion you are moron
did you read 3 links ppl gave to you on subject ?

[pal666]

Just release patches for Debians Upstart GPL only, and Canonical can't legaly use in a closed source version.

just release patches for making systemd portable to inferior kernels
smart ppl know that maintaining forks is hard