GRUB 2.02 Has Many Features, Might Hit Ubuntu 14.04

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  • TemplarGR
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    When will Ubuntu fork GRUB2?Before or after forking the kernel?

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  • baffledmollusc
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    I always knew GRUB was the "everything including the kitchen sink" bootloader, but even with that in mind, I boggled at this entry in the changelog:

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    * Morse code output using system speaker
    I imagine it's so it can communicate if video fails to come up, but I still don't know whether to be impressed or horrified!

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  • schmidtbag
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    hmm the uboot functionality intrigues me, but I'm not entirely sure how that works. Does that mean you need a uEnv to boot to grub, or, are you able to completely place grub over uboot? Because I would love to get rid of uboot - it is so poorly documented and inconsistent.

    ARM in general needs a serious overhaul in the booting department. It's an inconvenient mess.

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  • Ferdinand
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    Originally posted by Grogan View Post
    I've recently installed Mint on /dev/sda (where an old Gentoo install used to be) for a good distro to play with Steam.
    How is steam on linux? Good experience?

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  • johnc
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    One of the interesting issues with GRUB is that if you boot into Windows (from GRUB) you can't run the Windows Backup program.

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  • Grogan
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    I used to really hate Grub2, but I've learned to just make sure the grub autoconfig never happens (e.g. don't install kernel updates from distro repos... I always build my own anyway) and just stick to manual edits. I usually have to manually correct things anyway when grub-mkconfig gets run.

    I've recently installed Mint on /dev/sda (where an old Gentoo install used to be) for a good distro to play with Steam. I was planning on installing LILO to fix that (which I prefer because it's simple, filesystem agnostic and has no choice but to work AND I'm stubborn) but I decided not to fight it. Really Grub is better for me anyway, because when I do a new kernel in my Slackware setup I don't have to reboot to the other OS or chroot to run the lilo command. I only need to change a few characters in grub.cfg.

    I don't like change.

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  • Ericg
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    Originally posted by mark45 View Post
    Is grub2 bloated or is it a myth?
    I won't say its bloated, but it is definitely complex and convoluted compared to Grub1 or syslinux

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  • johnc
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    needs moar f2fs

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  • dragonn
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    I moved some time ago to syslinux - much simpler - just KISS, like the grub 1.

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  • Kano
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    Grub is like a mini os, it has filesystem drivers like the Linux kernel and lots of other features. Interestingly when you use UEFI you can use much simpler bootloaders (or even none) as long as you store the kernel (+initrd if needed) into the efi fat partition. If you don't like that you of course need bootloaders which can access the filesystem to load the kernel or whatever. The grub config files support a scripting language similar to shell scripts, you can dynamically create menu entries, very interesting features...

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