Fedora 20 Will Ship With The Linux 3.11 Kernel

[tessio]

What about RHEL 7? The beta was scheduled to 2013, but we are at 1/3 of December and there's no sign of it.

[Bucic]

It doesn't mean we wouldn't fix that bug, but you might want to open up a Fedora bug (if there isn't one already) requesting a fix for F20.

edit: oh, looks like https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=977391 . But do be careful with the word regression: https://ohjeezlinux.wordpress.com/20...t-regressions/

Excuse my ranting everywhere I mention the bug but after a year such a thing gets promoted to a fuckup, as far as I'm concerned. The chances are this will close within 18 months. Some QA...

[AdamW]

Wow, extremely helpful, thank you!


This would mean I'm switching to Arch for good. A regression introduced by Gnome Shell/mutter blokes caused massive tearing on Intel GPUs and this shit goes for over a year!
Please help, if you can:
How to get Xorg 1.15 DRI 3 and Mesa 10 sooner?

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=295560

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=711028

I'd really like to stick to Fedora but this is just too much!

It doesn't mean we wouldn't fix that bug, but you might want to open up a Fedora bug (if there isn't one already) requesting a fix for F20.

edit: oh, looks like https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=977391 . But do be careful with the word regression: https://ohjeezlinux.wordpress.com/20...t-regressions/

[Bucic]

For a lot of things... not really. The best you can do is go to the Package Database page: ...

Wow, extremely helpful, thank you!

I don't believe Mesa 10 and Xorg 1.15 will be released as an update for F20. It's F21 stuff.

This would mean I'm switching to Arch for good. A regression introduced by Gnome Shell/mutter blokes caused massive tearing on Intel GPUs and this shit goes for over a year!
Please help, if you can:
How to get Xorg 1.15 DRI 3 and Mesa 10 sooner?

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=295560

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=711028

I'd really like to stick to Fedora but this is just too much!

[AdamW]

For a lot of things... not really. The best you can do is go to the Package Database page: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb, search the package you want, then hit "Update Status" at the top, see if its listed under Testing or Pending

Mesa page: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/upda...ec3f7f9af26f2e
Xorg page: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/upda...ec3f7f9af26f2e

For instance, on there Mesa 10 isnt even listed as an update yet. So the maintainer is probably still working on the package, or he might be waiting until 10.0.1 for bug fixes.

With the kernel my rule of thumb is "-rc3 of the next kernel" so Fedora will get a stable update of 3.13 when upstream is at 3.14-rc3. Not always accurate, but Ive found it to be pretty close.

I don't believe Mesa 10 and Xorg 1.15 will be released as an update for F20. It's F21 stuff.

[AdamW]

What about 3.12 on Fedora 19?

As well as what finalzone said (it will be available as an update for F19, a bit after it's available for F20), you can run the 3.12 kernels from the nodebug repo on F19 as well, in most cases they'll work fine.

[Ericg]

Can time of delivery of a certain component be estimated somehow by a regular user? I'm interested in the Mesa 10 + DRI3 (Xorg 1.15).

For a lot of things... not really. The best you can do is go to the Package Database page: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb, search the package you want, then hit "Update Status" at the top, see if its listed under Testing or Pending

Mesa page: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/upda...ec3f7f9af26f2e
Xorg page: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/upda...ec3f7f9af26f2e

For instance, on there Mesa 10 isnt even listed as an update yet. So the maintainer is probably still working on the package, or he might be waiting until 10.0.1 for bug fixes.

With the kernel my rule of thumb is "-rc3 of the next kernel" so Fedora will get a stable update of 3.13 when upstream is at 3.14-rc3. Not always accurate, but Ive found it to be pretty close.

[Bucic]

It will be available in the update.

Can time of delivery of a certain component be estimated somehow by a regular user? I'm interested in the Mesa 10 + DRI3 (Xorg 1.15).

[finalzone]

What about 3.12 on Fedora 19?

It will be available in the update.

[tessio]

What about 3.12 on Fedora 19?