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Originally posted by peppercats View PostI'd just like to interject for a moment. What you?re referring to as GNU/Linux, is in fact, KDE/GNU/Linux, or as I?ve recently taken to calling it, KDE plus GNU plus Linux. GNU/Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning KDE desktop environment made useful by the KDE desktop, KDE windowing system and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
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Originally posted by peppercats View PostLet me know how that goes considering gnewsense has almost zero support for any type of wifi chips due to not having binary firmware blobs.
If you have unsupported hardware due to philosophical reasons, then you will have to just buy hardware that works within the bounds of that philosophy.
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Originally posted by funtastic View PostI don't think that explains their position on closed firmware. How can you be ok with closed source firmware if it is saved on a ROM, or even if it is saved on writable memory, but you are against it if it is on volatile memory and you have to copy it to the device every time it starts? I mean what different level of control on the system you have on the first two options that made them acceptable in comparison with the third one?
Personally, though I prefer to run on Freedom any chance I get, I realize that sometimes I may not have too much of a choice in the matter.
My laptop requires non-free firmware to get any wifi and any 3d (two things I regularly work with) and as a result, I can't run gNewSense or and of the FSF endorsed systems.
I can, however, run on Gentoo or Debian via getting what I need then closing up the repo/masking everything non-free ;P
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Originally posted by TestingTe View PostTo put the user in full control of the system.
Example of "freedom" : Gnome 3 was introduced and a lot of ppl didn't like it. What did we do? Forked gnome 2 and made MATE.
Example of proprietary blobs/ closed source/ "non-free": Adobe said that they are not going to support GNU/Linux anymore and that we'll only get security updates for only the next few years. What can we do? .... Nothing at all.
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Originally posted by peppercats View PostI'd just like to interject for a moment. What you?re referring to as GNU/Linux, is in fact, KDE/GNU/Linux, or as I?ve recently taken to calling it, KDE plus GNU plus Linux. GNU/Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning KDE desktop environment made useful by the KDE desktop, KDE windowing system and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Am I meant to call this a KDE/GNOME/Haskell/FreeDesktop/X.org/LibreOffice/.../Linux system? Or is it worth conceding that the term 'Linux' is generally accepted in context as describing 'an operating system making use of much userspace software, including GNU projects, in addition to the Linux kernel'?
P.S.: I noticed about halfway through writing this that the quoted post is quite possibly sarcasm, although Poe's Law does of course make it impossible to be certain of this fact. My point still stands in that case, even if it does restate the previous point and become strawman-ish.
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Originally posted by funtastic View PostI never understood their reasoning to not accept closed firmware.
Example of "freedom" : Gnome 3 was introduced and a lot of ppl didn't like it. What did we do? Forked gnome 2 and made MATE.
Example of proprietary blobs/ closed source/ "non-free": Adobe said that they are not going to support GNU/Linux anymore and that we'll only get security updates for only the next few years. What can we do? .... Nothing at all.
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Originally posted by peppercats View PostI'd just like to interject for a moment. What you?re referring to as GNU/Linux, is in fact, KDE/GNU/Linux, or as I?ve recently taken to calling it, KDE plus GNU plus Linux. GNU/Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning KDE desktop environment made useful by the KDE desktop, KDE windowing system and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
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Originally posted by Kite View PostActually, I've heard that's not accurate. It's quite true that Linux relies upon GNU for some very important utilities, but really GNU wrote only a very small percentage of the code in a modern Linux distro; as of 2011 or so, GNU only wrote around 8% of Ubuntu's code -- an important 8%, but 8% nonetheless. Furthermore, the Linux kernel alone is 9%, larger than GNU's total contribution to modern Ubuntu.
http://pedrocr.pt/text/how-much-gnu-in-gnu-linux/
I know what you mean and you know what I mean so it really does not matter. :-)
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Originally posted by Kite View PostActually, I've heard that's not accurate. It's quite true that Linux relies upon GNU for some very important utilities, but really GNU wrote only a very small percentage of the code in a modern Linux distro; as of 2011 or so, GNU only wrote around 8% of Ubuntu's code -- an important 8%, but 8% nonetheless. Furthermore, the Linux kernel alone is 9%, larger than GNU's total contribution to modern Ubuntu.
http://pedrocr.pt/text/how-much-gnu-in-gnu-linux/
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