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  • phoronix
    started a topic Ubuntu 7.10 + WINE vs. Windows XP

    Ubuntu 7.10 + WINE vs. Windows XP

    Phoronix: Ubuntu 7.10 + WINE vs. Windows XP

    This week's release of Ubuntu 7.10 "Gutsy Gibbon" is a significant win for the free software community. Not only does this release incorporate an updated package set -- most notably with the Linux 2.6.22 kernel and GNOME 2.20, but it also delivers on new desktop innovations from BulletProofX and displayconfig-gtk to Compiz Fusion being enabled by default on supported systems. However, for those business professionals and gamers that remain dependent on some Windows-only binary applications, the WINE (WINE Is Not An Emulator) project has been making some excellent headway into supporting Windows applications on the Linux desktop. With Ubuntu 7.10 and WINE 0.9.46 in hand, we had set out to compare the performance between Windows XP and Gutsy Gibbon with WINE on two popular DirectX benchmarks.

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=11258

  • Thetargos
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    Originally posted by mitcoes View Post
    I've read that Xp runs faster virtuali than native (becouse of no need for antivirus programs).
    That doesn't make sense... Windows can be messed up virtually or locally installed. The spread of the damage could be minimized when virtualized, but it still could be compromised.

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  • mitcoes
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    As you compare native vs. emulator. perhaps it would be nice other comparatives as native windows (XP & Vista) vs. Xen, Virtual Box, and Wmware installations.

    And for a good an fair comparation as VB and Wm has windows and linux versions, compare
    winXP native vs winXP virtual in XP vs winXP virtual in Vista vs Linux virtual.

    And for further benchs a test only with opengl games and games with 2 versions as Id software titles.

    I've read that Xp runs faster virtuali than native (becouse of no need for antivirus programs).

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  • Tillin9
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    Wine > 9.45 has been making a lot of changes to how Direct3D is handled. They transfered from GLX to WGL (i.e. moving a lot of lower-level graphics routines into wine) to improve compatibility. Also, if you check the wine release docs, you'll see almost a hundred Direct3D changes in the combination of 9.46 and 9.47. The net result is a decrease in performance and a whole bunch of regression issues for (hopefully) some improved long-term compatibility and maintainability. If you check the 3DMark 2001 SE winhq database, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManage...rsion&iId=4544 I'm (tillin9 = Scott) the one making all the comments. At least with my 9700 Pro, these recent changes took a mostly working benchmark (some pixel shader things were unsupported, either by wine or the ATI driver) and broke it. Another big issue for running Windows games under wine is the OpenGL child issue, which prevents Project64 1.6 http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManage...TestingId=6006 from working (despite a fix for this issue in 9.47) I'd actually appreciate it if an Nvidia user tried it (as this might be an ATI driver issue).

    Also won't hurt if anybody on the forums is a registered wine user to vote for these apps to increase developer attention.

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  • Michael
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    [quote=Strunkenbold;15441]@michael
    Could you please check 3dmark03 with wine-0.9.45?/quote]

    Yeah, sure. It may take a couple days to get to it in my schedule, but will try to test it with WINE 0.9.45 ASAP.

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  • Strunkenbold
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    @michael
    Could you please check 3dmark03 with wine-0.9.45?
    Im creator of http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9768
    As no one has verified the correctness of the bug Im looking for someone with 2 graphic cards

    When both cards reaches higher fps in wine .45, its probably a bug somewhere in wine.
    If only the 8600GT has higher speeds, its just another performance bug in the nvidia-driver.
    thx

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  • Noneus
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    I'm using crossover office and nvidia...

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  • d2kx
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    Originally posted by Noneus View Post
    I think testing for 3DMark isn't the right way to go. You should have tested games. Source games and probably other stuff. There are games that run great with wine and other don't.
    The last time I was able to play a HL2 based game was years ago with my nVidia GF FX 5600. Even Wine 0.9.47 won't let me play. Crashes at game startups (at the moment), blackscreen after map loading, Steam is not updating etc.... I've got all of that. If you're running fglrx and HL2 based games, I'd like to know what you've done for that.

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  • Kano
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    You could try renameing the executable in Win then maybe some gfx driver hacks are disabled.

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  • Noneus
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    I think testing for 3DMark isn't the right way to go. You should have tested games. Source games and probably other stuff. There are games that run great with wine and other don't.

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