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  • phoronix
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    Ubuntu 13.04 To Axe The Wubi Windows Installer

    Phoronix: Ubuntu 13.04 To Axe The Wubi Windows Installer

    One of the less popular ways to use Ubuntu Linux has been through the "Wubi" Windows-based installer that places Ubuntu within a Windows installation just as you would any other application. However, Canonical is planning to remove Wubi from Ubuntu 13.04...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTM0MDY

  • peppercats
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    Originally posted by Sonadow View Post
    Even most noobs know how to install a copy of Windows onto bare metal with the Windows install DVD.
    You severely overestimate the capabilities of the average user.

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  • Sonadow
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    Originally posted by peppercats View Post
    No they shouldn't. Linux isn't some secret "h4ckers 0nly" club, it should be available to everyone as easily as possible. Linux will never catch on as long as people have to manually install it, and as long as they have to manually install it, it should be as easy as possible.
    Installing something as fundamental as an operating system is not some secret "h4ckers 0nly" club activity. Even most noobs know how to install a copy of Windows onto bare metal with the Windows install DVD. I don't see how difficult can it be to load a DVD into the drive and simply click 'Next' ad infinitum.

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  • GreatEmerald
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    Indeed. You have to manually install Windows as well, after all, and the difference between the Windows and Ubuntu installers aren't that huge.

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  • curaga
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    Recent Ubuntus are extremely easy to install, especially if you can pick "use whole disk". Then it's just name, timezone, watch nice pictures of what Ubuntu can do for some minutes.

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  • peppercats
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    Originally posted by Sonadow View Post
    People should learn how to install an operating system onto bare metal using a proper OS installer and not through a workaround such as Wubi.
    No they shouldn't. Linux isn't some secret "h4ckers 0nly" club, it should be available to everyone as easily as possible. Linux will never catch on as long as people have to manually install it, and as long as they have to manually install it, it should be as easy as possible.

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  • Sonadow
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    For the record, during the period of time I was on Ubuntu the Wubi installer never ever seemed to work; it just end up hanging at the installation process. That was during the XP and Vista days. Maybe it has improved vastly today, i don't know.

    Anyway, no real loss. People should learn how to install an operating system onto bare metal using a proper OS installer and not through a workaround such as Wubi.

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  • yossarianuk
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    [QUOTE=ruinairas;323079]Well, there goes my method of showing people Ubuntu. People feel more comfortable using WUBI than using a real partition. I dunno why, it's just that way. I can't wait to explain to some of my friends why I can't install 13.04 on their computer using WUBI now. >.>

    Well one thing was it was far slower than the normal livecd or normal install.

    So it may have put people off looking more into the OS.

    One person at work mentioned how slow ubuntu was compared to Windows, it was only after about 15 minutes into the conversation I worked out he was using wubi.

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  • AJenbo
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    Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post
    Good thing we're moving towards GPT, then.
    Turns out the Ubuntu installer has issues with interacting with the Windows 8 laptops that have GPT partitions as well. It can't see Windows and appears to not want to partition the drive either. I think it is related to the MBR compatible sektion of the GPT, but I haven't had a chance to play with one my self.

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  • rafirafi
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    Originally posted by who_me View Post
    There is no reason in this day and age to use WUBI. I used something like it way, way back. It was called WinLinux. It pretty much did what WUBI does today on Win 95 /98 (maybe Me?). Buuuut, today we have virtual machines, powerful computers and good disk imaging software that can be obtained at no cost (like the free version of Macrium Reflect).

    If you are the one that is helping friends and family install Ubuntu, than do it properly for God's sake.
    Virtualization is great but there are perfectly working computers without vt-x, yes even today.
    And sorry but "powerful computers" cost something, some people are poor or too young to have their own money.

    I'm not saying wubi is perfect, I'm just saying that the reality is that some people were very happy with wubi and it was their first step in linux world.

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