Ubuntu To Investigate Digital Rights Management

[funkSTAR]

You are arguing about the business practices of Trolltech (and now Digia), which is possible due to the multi-licensing of Qt. The original Qt itself, does NOT contain DRM, the modified proprietary versions might contain DRM, but you aren't using those versions, are you?

When you install Qt on your Linux distro of choice, which one are you installing? the GPL or the proprietary modified ones?

THANK YOU for admitting the FACT that DRM is part of Qt bu$ine$$ model. This DRM shit pulled from Qts ass is also partly to blame for KDEs reluctance to join a cross-DE quest for a working multimedia stack. Being under control by the Puppet Master called Qt will get you down the alley of "compability" to several stacks(Including Qts first priority DRM-infested, patented shit). That is the most sad thing learned from DRM. It fucked free software not by it adoption, but by its existence. Qts DRM shit is like a 2006 fart that keeps smelling. And even today KDE is confused because Qt s a ongoing DRM disaster.

By the way, Qt will always be FOSS thanks to the KDE foundation.
http://www.kde.org/community/whatisk...foundation.php

NO! Go read your own link. KDE is provided with powers to put Qt Free under a more permissive license. Which is so permissive it wont be FOSS anymore.

[mike4]

sorry I couldn't listen to that ahm ahm ahm...

[r1348]

Seriously, it must be "Bad PR Week" down at Canonical. I wonder what are their next activities... punching puppies? Mugging grannies? Hiring De Icaza?

[j2723]

LoL. You are in total denial. Qt is used for DRM on set top boxes. Deal with it.

http://www.discretix.com/corporate/pr080211_Mobile_DRM_for_Embedded_Linux.html

http://www.it-observer.com/beep-science-and-trolltech-team.html

http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/GPLd-Linux-stack-supports-touchscreen-phones/

Anyone claiming that Qt is not heavily invovled in the fine art of freedom fucking DRM is in TOTAL DENIAL and need medical attention ASAP.

You are arguing about the business practices of Trolltech (and now Digia), which is possible due to the multi-licensing of Qt. The original Qt itself, does NOT contain DRM, the modified proprietary versions might contain DRM, but you aren't using those versions, are you?

When you install Qt on your Linux distro of choice, which one are you installing? the GPL or the proprietary modified ones?

By the way, Qt will always be FOSS thanks to the KDE foundation.

http://www.kde.org/community/whatiskde/kdefreeqtfoundation.php

The Foundation has a license agreement with Nokia. This agreement ensures that the Qt will continue to be available under both the LGPL 2.1 and the GPL 3. Should Nokia discontinue the development of the Qt Free Edition under these licenses, then the Foundation has the right to release Qt under a BSD-style license or under other open source licenses. The agreement stays valid in case of a buy-out, a merger or bankruptcy.

You are simply spreading FUD on the desktop space.

[zanny]

Why not? Windows is closed and it's probably the most insecure system on the planet. In contrary, Open Source systems are the most secure. EDIT: or perhaps, you meant security in the mean of to not pirate games or services?

The open nature of many codebases is the reason it is so secure. A million eyes are better than a dozen in finding exploits. Linux also has much more sophisticated and well designed security models.

Hiding the implementation just means someone reverse engineers it in a black box, finds a hole, and takes rampant advantage of it. With open source, these bugs come out before release, and if they arise they can be patched day of due to the negligible bureaucratic overhead. Computers can be inherently secure through hardware like entropy generators, it is just about taking advantage of inherent security in software form.

[prodigy_]

Like I said, at this point Canonical wants to make money one way or another. Some of us might think that spyware, Mir and DRM are the worst things that could happen to a popular Linux distro but they're wrong. What we see here is only the beginning of the end for Ubuntu. It's gonna stink a lot more before it decomposes.

[Kalessian]

DRM-Free "content": Amazon mp3's, itunes mp3's, gog.com, webcasts, podcasts, humble indie bundle, etc. etc. DRM is not needed for successful business, just as closed source is not needed (or even a good idea) for security.

[dee.]

One day we'll get rid of artificial scarcity, and we'll never have to deal with DRM or "trusted computing" again. I hope.

When you think about it, DRM is basically just a mild form of "trusted computing" - your computer doesn't do what you wants, only what someone else thinks you should be allowed to do with it. The only difference is that DRM is (usually) confined to one application, while "trusted computing" applies to the entire system.

Linux should be kept free of "trusted computing" schemes, as those are inherently offensive to the fundamental freedoms of people.

You can't have everything open when security is at stake.

Why not? Windows is closed and it's probably the most insecure system on the planet. In contrary, Open Source systems are the most secure. EDIT: or perhaps, you meant security in the mean of to not pirate games or services?

[funkSTAR]

funkstar is a fail of troll and a Qt hater[or GTK zealot] that no matter what you do will always find a more ridicule to embarrass himself or simply to replying to your post and get all vocal. Q will cry blood if he sees how low trolls falled after he left

best solution, plainly ignore him[until at least he get decent trollings]

LoL. You are in total denial. Qt is used for DRM on set top boxes. Deal with it.

http://www.discretix.com/corporate/pr080211_Mobile_DRM_for_Embedded_Linux.html

http://www.it-observer.com/beep-science-and-trolltech-team.html

http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/GPLd-Linux-stack-supports-touchscreen-phones/

Anyone claiming that Qt is not heavily invovled in the fine art of freedom fucking DRM is in TOTAL DENIAL and need medical attention ASAP.