Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" Installer Release Candidate 1

[pingufunkybeat]

Outdated is one way of describing things, "well known, understood and tested", would be another. I'm speaking in generalities here, but I'd be surprised if the debian developers weren't aware of the latest developments, and since they are likely to be aware of them, they must have decided to play it safe and stick with the more tried and tested ("outdated") technologies, until the new ones have a good track record.

I know, I <3 Debian, and switching the init system this late into a release cycle would be stupid.

[archibald]

Debian is a conservative distro. They stick to outdated technologies.

Outdated is one way of describing things, "well known, understood and tested", would be another. I'm speaking in generalities here, but I'd be surprised if the debian developers weren't aware of the latest developments, and since they are likely to be aware of them, they must have decided to play it safe and stick with the more tried and tested ("outdated") technologies, until the new ones have a good track record.

[pingufunkybeat]

Yo. I have heard Debian now made Cinnamon and eudev default. They did so because of the very convincing arguments stated on the Phoronix forums. Is that true?

Debian is a conservative distro. They stick to outdated technologies.

[grege]

Yo. I have heard Debian now made Cinnamon and eudev default. They did so because of the very convincing arguments stated on the Phoronix forums. Is that true?

No

Gnome 3.4

[funkSTAR]

Yo. I have heard Debian now made Cinnamon and eudev default. They did so because of the very convincing arguments stated on the Phoronix forums. Is that true?

[Kano]

@stqn

It is basically simple when you are able to download the missing libs before you execute binaries. Or you just try to execute the bootstrap code, check the errorlevel. In case it failed then you download the libc6 (i dont know why valve has got so many libs in the environment, thats not even needed) and put the libc6 in the same dir (thats what i use) or a bit cleaner use a different dir but in LD_LIBRARY_PATH set by the launcher.

When the first signs have been there for a Linux client i was able to bootstrap the client completely with a small bash script, all i needed was

http://store.steampowered.com/public/client/steam_client_linux

i did not monitor the internet traffic to know what url is used right now, maybe somebody will find the correct url and i can write my own bootstrap code. it is a piece of cake, i wrote similar things for win32 and osx

http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?23328-There-Is-No-Doubt-Steam-Is-Coming-To-Linux!&p=123622#post123622

http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?23328-There-Is-No-Doubt-Steam-Is-Coming-To-Linux!&p=123688#post123688

I think i had a better script that wrote the file with the checksums in the correct place as well but you should get the idea how it works. It's definitely no rocket science you need to learn to do it right.

[moilami]

Steam worked since the beginning with Debian with my script.

Much appreciated.

[pingufunkybeat]

I can't believe that people actually use Debian. I installed it once, and I remember thinking to myself "Wow, I remember this stuff. But, I want to use the new stuff!"

It's a perfect work system. The most rock-solid distro in the universe, and I don't need bling or experimental kernel features for my workstation.

I used OpenSUSE and Kubuntu for a while and although they are both decent distros, there was too much breakage and whoopsies when updating for my liking.

I would prefer it if the unstable branch were a bit more up-to-date, but that's Debian for you. The "unstable" version would be called "stable" by any other distro.

[DeepDayze]

It's so nice that the Debian installer has progressed beyond 2001 and now supports WPA/WPA2.

Its been true that the installer did not support wireless network connections for doing netinstalls until now. You always had to hook the machine up to a router with an Ethernet cable to do a netinstall. About time Debian got this missing feature installed.

However its not really a good idea to do a netinstall over a wireless connection as the connection is not as stable as an Ethernet connection, but soon you can if you do trust your wifi connection.

[halfmanhalfamazing]

I can't believe that people actually use Debian. I installed it once, and I remember thinking to myself "Wow, I remember this stuff. But, I want to use the new stuff!"

Somehow, I suspect that those KDE trollers we have around here(The ones who constantly complain about bugs) are using Debian - Martin Graesslin has generally(Not aimed toward Debian) addressed this (though, I don't have the link, sorry) about people who seek to have bugs fixed but they're using too old of a version to get their bug fixed. The KDE Devs only fix so far back. I would too.