Fedora 18 Systemd Boot Performance Is Mixed

[AdamW]

unfortunately i cant test right now, my hd6870 broke and im lazy to install legacy drivers for my current hd4670, i will receive my hd7870 in a week then i can report back with more info, altho i doubt its gnome-shell, ive installed lightdm and mate-desktop because i hate gnome3, and completely removed every gnome3 related package and altho my dm delay is somewhat solved, mate-desktop still takes ages to load

So I found time to look at this again yesterday, and found that for me, the problem seems to be in nautilus, and appears to happen only when the network is down:

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692762

Is your network down when booting the system? If so it could be the same thing; nautilus may be coming up in MATE.

[AnorexiasGrizzli]

I've seen several people report this and my laptop seems to be hitting it: I believe it's actually gnome-shell hitting some kind of timeout during startup. If you just restart gnome-shell with alt-f2 'r', does it also take a long time? I'm planning to work on debugging this with the desktop devs soon. This could well be the bug that hit some of the systems in this benchmark.

unfortunately i cant test right now, my hd6870 broke and im lazy to install legacy drivers for my current hd4670, i will receive my hd7870 in a week then i can report back with more info, altho i doubt its gnome-shell, ive installed lightdm and mate-desktop because i hate gnome3, and completely removed every gnome3 related package and altho my dm delay is somewhat solved, mate-desktop still takes ages to load

[AdamW]

for me fedora 18 boots quickly but the GDM loads in about 30 seconds and once i log in the desktop takes another 30 seconds to load...its hardly usable this way, especially cause i installed it on an ssd

I've seen several people report this and my laptop seems to be hitting it: I believe it's actually gnome-shell hitting some kind of timeout during startup. If you just restart gnome-shell with alt-f2 'r', does it also take a long time? I'm planning to work on debugging this with the desktop devs soon. This could well be the bug that hit some of the systems in this benchmark.

[AnorexiasGrizzli]

for me fedora 18 boots quickly but the GDM loads in about 30 seconds and once i log in the desktop takes another 30 seconds to load...its hardly usable this way, especially cause i installed it on an ssd

[panda84]

Hi everybody, hi Michael.

I just wanted to let you know that systemd has a really easy and nice tool to analyze what is slow. Sometimes the slow task might even be non-blocking, so that user perceived boot time is not as slow as stats declare.

To have a better detail of boot times and slow services you can use:

systemd-analyze time

and:

systemd-analyze blame

You can even get a plot of boot with:

systemd-analyze plot

BTW, a good guide to using the tool can be found here:

http://bsriram.wordpress.com/2012/10/22/optimize-fedora-booting-process/

[panda84]

systemd-analyze

Hi everybody, hi Michael.

I just wanted to let you know that systemd has a really easy and nice tool to analyze what is slow. Sometimes the slow task might even be non-blocking, so that user perceived boot time is not as slow as stats declare.

To have a better detail of boot times and slow services you can use:

systemd-analyze time

and:

systemd-analyze blame

You can even get a plot of boot with:

systemd-analyze plot

[V!NCENT]

This realy sucks, if it is practicaly slower in Fedora 18 as well.

I have not realy felt the need for a SSD, because Fedora 17 boots realy fast en feels realy responsive for file lookup. For example when I mount a Windows partition, Rhythmbox instantly displays all music that's on that drive, and scrolling and previewing a map full of pictures is so fast that I can't notice any slowdowns using a HDD.

I hope that once I install Fedora 18 on my new (refurbished) desktop with a standard Seagate Baracuda 500GB, this isn't making me downgrade to Fedora 17

[Steffo]

Phoronix: Fedora 18 Systemd Boot Performance Is Mixed

This is not a good article! It would be interesting where the problem exactly is! As "funkSTAR" said, you can analyze this with systemd's blame!

[kokoko3k]

Fixed that for you (when using the NVIDIA driver at least)... this is why I never suspend or hibernate.

So... man power should think to solve hibernation problems rather than boot speed.

Anyway that's strange, i always used hibernation (first tuxonice, then vanilla) with:
7900gt,9600gt,9800gt and ion first gen without problems across kernel releases for years.

[Calinou]

Just use that and have your system draw a black screen in 10 seconds...

Fixed that for you (when using the NVIDIA driver at least)... this is why I never suspend or hibernate.