After Many Delays, Fedora 18 Is Finally Ready To Ship

[RahulSundaram]

I am what?

Still, fair point.

I guess you started replying before I edited. I already said what I had to say :-)

[Hamish Wilson]

u are

I am what?

Still, fair point.

[RahulSundaram]

Yes, we are in full agreement here.

There used to be a "mesa-dri-experimental" package that included later snapshots of the development Mesa versions but it sadly was later removed.

You are referring to a package that existed for a single release with the goal of providing (then considered experimental) 3D support in open source drivers

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_one_page_release_notes

It didn't exist to provide newer snapshots.

[Hamish Wilson]

I am using Fedora precisely because I have lots of Radeon hardware that needs the latest Mesa. Having said that, even Fedora can't really keep up with Radeon OpenGL changes these days. Fedora 17 has only Mesa 8.0.4, which is a long way behind Mesa git. Looking forward to Mesa 9.x so that my HD6450 has better support.

Yes, we are in full agreement here.

There used to be a "mesa-dri-experimental" package that included later snapshots of the development Mesa versions but it sadly was later removed.

[chrisr]

Yes, Fedora is a good choice for tracking Radeon changes

for example if u are after lastest radeon oss drivers like i am on my laptop fedora is a pretty good choice, bleeding edge and stable enough.

I am using Fedora precisely because I have lots of Radeon hardware that needs the latest Mesa. Having said that, even Fedora can't really keep up with Radeon OpenGL changes these days. Fedora 17 has only Mesa 8.0.4, which is a long way behind Mesa git. Looking forward to Mesa 9.x so that my HD6450 has better support.

[adriankx]

for example if u are after lastest radeon oss drivers like i am on my laptop fedora is a pretty good choice, bleeding edge and stable enough. i use the kde fedora spin never had really issues like kernel panics after updates system becoming unbootable bla bla. Aldo i use my laptop just for music surfing torrents movies i dont game on it i have a big pc for that. And i think one should install fedora atleast one in respect for the redhats community contrib and support. They run a money making bussines on server side but they also give back.

[Bucic]

So because Fedora isn't what you want, it's a trainwreck?

I'm going for a cup of coffee! I will not tolerate this trainwreck called 'tea'!

Good one!

[AdamW]

Luckily I abandoned the trainwreck called Fedora a year ago and happily switched to CentOS 6.3.

I don't need this f*ckload of changes every release, I don't even want to keep up with them - I want a stable system I can use for years without fearing that something might break now and then.

So because Fedora isn't what you want, it's a trainwreck?

I'm going for a cup of coffee! I will not tolerate this trainwreck called 'tea'!

[Hamish Wilson]

While I agree that if you want rock hard reliability Debian Stable or CentOS are better choices, I have not had too many issues using Fedora. And the fact that it offers some semblance of stability while giving me close to the most recent drivers and kernels is a big motivation to use it if you really do not want to mess about with rolling release distros like Arch.

[Ancurio]

Luckily I abandoned the trainwreck called Fedora a year ago and happily switched to CentOS 6.3.

I don't need this f*ckload of changes every release, I don't even want to keep up with them - I want a stable system I can use for years without fearing that something might break now and then.

Then it was retarded of you to install Fedora in the first place, as that is definitely not what it is marketed as.
I, for example, am fucking sick of having to use 3 years old software on Debian at work.