Debian Switches Back To GNOME From Xfce

[a user]

I don't give reasons? I've listed them many times but here's one for you: Why the hell do I have to go to a corner and then click an application to switch to it ? Didn't I have the taskbar for that? And don't go bullshit me with those shitty extensions that add a crappy taskbar that looks like shit and doesn't work.

oh, if that is one of your major issues with gnome shell then there is no reason to be scared.

p.s. alt-tab is your friend. and beside of that, previously you had to go to a border and click the application, now you have to go to a corner and click the application. a trmordous big difference. i feel for you.......

p.p.s. i like your nick name. it makes very clear with whom i am writing here. quite amusing.

[Sidicas]

Yes I am not pleased with these idiots running my desktop into the ground. Both Gnome3 and Unity are shit. And I did try to use them for a while. They are shit! Also I hate that wayland stuff that will probably break my desktop more often than X does. And also I fucking hate both eclipse and netbeans for making my life harder than it should be when writing code! They can't get a fucking text editor right next thing I'll find out is that they have problems writing a fucking hello world program!!!! And windows 8 is so shitty I don't know even where to beagin swearing at it! For a second I thought it's gonna be a good year for linux after seeing how retarded Microsoft got in the past few years, but nooo, linux is also full of idiots, the difference being microsoft at least is rich!

If you sit on the same technology, you will slowly lose marketshare. I don't see many people still using motif or KDE3 anymore. If you take huge risks and develop new technology (gnome3, Unity, Plasma Active, etc.) then there is great opportunity to be a pioneer rather than a follower. It's impossible to gain any marketshare as a follower because everything you do, has pretty much been done before by other software. That makes your software uninteresting to end-users. So they simply don't care enough to make the switch, and it's even more of a barrier when your OS is less user friendly than the alternatives.

[Sidicas]

I didn't expect this to be reported here, so nice surprise!

I do expect Debian to switch the default soon again, as Debian runs on way more platforms than GNOME 3 will be able to properly run on (the no fallback mode).

The Phoronix article is wrong here. Debian is going to be using Gnome 3.4 with bugfixes backported from newer versions for the next release. This is because Wheezy has been frozen for 4 months now. This is yet another bullet dodged by using Debian. Gnome's fallback works just fine in Debian. It'll be years before Debian users have to deal with the problem of having no fallback for Gnome.... and by then everybody will likely be using Wayland anyway and have bigger problems to worry about.

[Detructor]

I love it how people say that Gnome3 is 'shit' and at the same time not giving one reason why it's 'shit'.

Well, you may not like it, that's your own fault, sucks to be you. Gnome 3 is brilliant. It doesn't matter if you want to only use your keyboard or only use your mouse or use both, in all cases you can control the entire DE.

Oh, but please stop comparing Gnome 3 to that stupid, commercial, data selling whore they call Unity. Thanks.

[Awesomeness]

Are there any people in the open source community who are not idiots, according to your judgment?

I'm curious, because you seem to be on a bit of a roll recently

He's a troll and the only idiots are the ones who reply to him.

[ishpeck]

Linus is a fickle desktop user...

I swear Linus goes through Desktop Environments like Donny Osmond goes through wives.

[pingufunkybeat]

What the fuck is with this indecision? Everybody hates managers who 2 weeks before launch say that they want something changed, something fundamental. Apparentely debian is also full of idiotic managers.

Are there any people in the open source community who are not idiots, according to your judgment?

I'm curious, because you seem to be on a bit of a roll recently

[uid313]

3D-accelerated GPU driver

I don't mind using a 3D-accelerated GPU driver.
It's just that I find GNOME Shell (and Unity) to be absolutely unusable mess.

It gets in the way and requires too many clicks.

[bkor]

Cool!

I didn't expect this to be reported here, so nice surprise!

I do expect Debian to switch the default soon again, as Debian runs on way more platforms than GNOME 3 will be able to properly run on (the no fallback mode).

[genstorm]

You should better correct your remark about Linus' DE switch as it is incorrect. Michael, read your own links.