Arch Linux Is Switching To Systemd

[89c51]

Shuttleworth would have to die before systemd makes it into Ubuntu.

As recently as April he's said no way it's going to happen.

I want to believe that the Spaceman is smart enough to change his mind on this.

[nightmarex]

File system changes, mkinitcpio... This?! Arch needs to slow the eff down I love it but the recent changes borked my last install to the point where chroot couldn't save it. Now after setting it up (without install framework. fun fun...) if it breaks again I am going to have to jump to a stable distro just to relax for a month!

[johnc]

systemd is not yet in Ubuntu. But from what I heard it will be....fuck shoving more crap down our throats....I'd go to windows but fuck windows 8 their also shoving even more crap down our throats.

Shuttleworth would have to die before systemd makes it into Ubuntu.

As recently as April he's said no way it's going to happen.

[AJSB]

Good luck with that! LOL

What's the problem with Slackware ?!?
No matter it was one of the last distros that i tested several years ago, it end up to be my favorite...i'm using it right now

Very stable, very snappy, very configurable, very easy to install blobs, (re)compile kernels, etc...aaahhhh....yes....and the audio simply works out of the box with multimedia and games

ps:I have nothing against Systemd....then again never used it

[johnc]

So what makes systemd so awesome?

[ShadowBane]

2. systemd needs more service files...

I actually haven't had any problems with lack of service files on Arch, basically everything that they include a rc.d file for they provide a systemd service for. Also, the more common it becomes the more service files will be written.

[ChrisXY]

Pulseaudio has some rt problems, lets create some daemon that fucks up rt for jack users!

You know that you don't need to use it and that you still can use jack directly and pulseaudio as a jack client?

I think I can safely sum up the criticism in this thread:
"It's bad because I say so."

I have used it for some time and I can only critisize:
1. When some service hangs on shutdown systemd waits unnecessary long before killing it. And after systemd has been updated it sometimes didn't shut down the PC correctly anymore. But I think that hasn't happened for some time now.
2. systemd needs more service files...

[Alex Sarmiento]

And I'm switching to Slackware

Good luck with that! LOL

[Alex Sarmiento]

I think you are missing the difference between 'standard' and 'a standard.' You see, in the case of 'standard' it is just the common default option. Systemd is quickly becoming the standard way of booting a linux computer. In the case of 'a standard' it must be recognised by a standards body. Recognising a boot system as a standard would just be silly, it woud serve as a barier to newer and possibly better boot systems and could impair the ability to improve the one that had been enshrined as a standard.


On a side note, what is with all the hate for Pottering? Really, he is a brilliant guy who has contributed a ton to making linux on the desktop usable.

YES!.

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Really?

[LightBit]

And I'm switching to Slackware