Mark Shuttleworth Talks About What Ubuntu Contributes

[phoen1x]

The problem with canonical is that they act like apple or smth. They act like "HEY WE INVENTED THIS", they actually never invented nothing (except brown ugly gnome themes and osx wannabe themes? ), all they do is use other people/company created stuff. That MIGHT be not that bad, but when u look at lolbuntu forums where bunch of retards just shout like hey ubuntu did that, ubuntu has that, ubuntu is so awesome u'll understand that canonical takes way too much credit for doing nothing, but hype is hype.

[V!NCENT]

Canonical isn't taking credit for anything. You just hate that the newbies give credit and praise to Canonical and not towards your favorite distribution/project.

Who cares? As long as Ubuntu is being viewed as awesome, people will keep comming and presure for Linux support will only rise.

[BlackStar]

Canonical isn't taking credit for anything. You just hate that the newbies give credit and praise to Canonical and not towards your favorite distribution/project.

Who cares? As long as Ubuntu is being viewed as awesome, people will keep comming and presure for Linux support will only rise.

Which is a *good* thing (in case that wasn't obvious).

[pingufunkybeat]

Who cares? As long as Ubuntu is being viewed as awesome, people will keep comming and presure for Linux support will only rise.

As long as this is what happens, I'm very happy!

But it seems that many people are calling for Ubuntu support, and not Linux support. A number of people on different forums are asking for companies to stop Linux support and support only Ubuntu.

Already there are programs which only work on Ubuntu, and you must go through lots of hoops to get them working on anything else.

[BlackStar]

As long as this is what happens, I'm very happy!

But it seems that many people are calling for Ubuntu support, and not Linux support. A number of people on different forums are asking for companies to stop Linux support and support only Ubuntu.

Already there are programs which only work on Ubuntu, and you must go through lots of hoops to get them working on anything else.

The Arch forums are full of people who learnt Linux through Ubuntu then moved on to greener pastures. Ubuntu is a great "gateway" distro.

Programs such as? (Smells like proprietary garbage...)

[next9]

The only case you could potentially make against a company like Canonical would be if they somehow managed to have an overall negative effect on upstream. Ask yourself this: would Gnome (et al) be better off if Canonical just vanished right now?

Answer is simple. Yes. Obviously Yes. If customer (like Amazon) did not buy Canonical product, but bought RedHat product, those money would find their way into GNOME trough RedHat. But the customer paid Canonical thus those money disappeared in some Ubuntu One, Ubuntu Store or other (for community) useless target projects.

[mugginz]

Yes. That?s why they contribute to GNOME so marginally

If Gnome don't want Canonical's code what should they do?

The reality is, they take others work, without contributing into it, and build their own doodads upon it. If you are not able to understand "what is wrong about it", i think additional discussion is useless

If you could see through your blind hatred of Canonical and have a look at what they do do, you might be more worthwhile speaking to.

So given that Canonical feels free enough to not only contribute to the projects that exist, but also make new ones what do you think of something like the following.

http://design.canonical.com/2010/09/getting-physical/

[pingufunkybeat]

The Arch forums are full of people who learnt Linux through Ubuntu then moved on to greener pastures. Ubuntu is a great "gateway" distro.

Agreed.

Programs such as? (Smells like proprietary garbage...)

You're right -- it is proprietary garbage, but the games people want ported are also proprietary garbage.

[mugginz]

thus those money disappeared in some Ubuntu One, Ubuntu Store or other (for community) useless target projects.

Is that the same Ubuntu Store where open source projects will be able to receive funds from end users?

[next9]

Is that the same Ubuntu Store where open source projects will be able to receive funds from end users?

It is a store, where today only proprietary applications earn money. What in theory will or would be... I would rather leave without comment.

But then, maybe, I would change my mind.