Yahoo Pays Canonical, Now They're The Ubuntu Default

[val-gaav]

Mono is not really a competitor to .NET and so far it doesn't seem it ever will... It will always just play catch up or be a C# for open source devs. It's like saying that Wine is a competitor to Windows 7. It isn't.

Anyway my point is that ubuntu is not a distro that stays away from controversial or MS techs or techs based on MS ideas (Call that whatever you want) just because of some ideology or MS hate.

... and Mono for sure has many haters among community (far more then samba don't you agree ? ) So I think it's pretty valid to say that if ubuntu has nothing against mono it's no surprise they also have nothing against using bing based search.

BTW Honestly I don't use / care about mono or what the default search in ubuntu is. I was just surprised at how people are surprised with ubuntu decision ... That's all.

[Jimmy]

You missed my point. Just as mono is not a MS project Yahoo is also not owned by Microsoft (at least yet :P ) They are partners with MS. Guess what Novel the main player behind Mono is also in partnership with MS...

IMHO it's very alike and as I said there are distros that provide Mono by default and those that do not. Ubuntu provides mono by default and now will use yahoo (bing powered or whatever). As I said that shouldn't be a surprise.

The only similarity I see is that Novel made an agreement with Microsoft and Yahoo made an agreement with Microsoft. The agreements are about completely different things.

Yahoo's agreement was to use Microsoft's technology as implemented by Microsoft and Novel's is that Microsoft will not assert their patents against Novel for implementing a competing product. (Although I don't know how useful Novel's agreement is in regard to Mono given that Microsoft later promised not to assert patents against anyone for creating or using an alternate .NET implementation back in July.)

So, on one hand you have Yahoo dropping out of search (not competing) and the other Mono continuing doing what they've been doing (providing an alternate competing product).

[Apopas]

It's a terrorist plot to replace the Linux kernel in with the Nt kernel... we're all doomed.

But why? I've heard the NT kernel is very good...

[yogi_berra]

You missed my point. Just as mono is not a MS project Yahoo is also not owned by Microsoft (at least yet :P ) They are partners with MS. Guess what Novel the main player behind Mono is also in partnership with MS...

IMHO it's very alike and as I said there are distros that provide Mono by default and those that do not. Ubuntu provides mono by default and now will use yahoo (bing powered or whatever). As I said that shouldn't be a surprise.

It's a terrorist plot to replace the Linux kernel in with the Nt kernel... we're all doomed.

[Apopas]

To those who think so: Bring me all your thumb drives and show me they all use something other than a Microsoft file system or you're a hypocrite.

Yeah we 've seen how nice is to standarize no opensource and free technologies and then try to make them compatible under Linux.

[val-gaav]

I meant to reply to this earlier, but here goes.

Mono is not a Microsoft project. If someone has a problem with Mono than they should also have a problem with Linux FAT/NTFS support, Samba, Wine, and on and on. Is making things compatible really that evil? Really? To those who think so: Bring me all your thumb drives and show me they all use something other than a Microsoft file system or you're a hypocrite.

You missed my point. Just as mono is not a MS project Yahoo is also not owned by Microsoft (at least yet :P ) They are partners with MS. Guess what Novel the main player behind Mono is also in partnership with MS...

IMHO it's very alike and as I said there are distros that provide Mono by default and those that do not. Ubuntu provides mono by default and now will use yahoo (bing powered or whatever). As I said that shouldn't be a surprise.

[Jimmy]

Your B.S. is quite amusing. I'll know to ignore your posts from now on.

Most people who don't have a sound counter do that. Go ahead and stick your fingers in your ears and yell nah nah nah.

[Panix]

FWIW, I just installed Google Earth on Linux in under a minute. Also, if "open source friendly" meant "user friendly" than many Linux projects would in fact be hostile to open source even though they are themselves open source. So, your one example of how Google is so evil sounds more like FUD to me than anything else.

Your B.S. is quite amusing. I'll know to ignore your posts from now on.

[curaga]

Type in a relatively uncommon IT acronym and I typically have to hunt through about ten million spurious responses of words similar to that acronynm until I find something useful, because it just knows that I don't really want to search for the word I actually entered.

Put it in quotes nowadays.

[Jimmy]

How is the current Mono (MS) powered ubuntu different from that? Why isn't Mono (Ms) lame in your opinion then ?

I mean this is a bit alike don't you think ? Yeah there are anti-mono people running all around, but since ubuntu took a pro mono stance so why are so many now surprised on the yahoo/bing thing ?

It would be news if debian or fedora switched to bing, since both are anti-mono/ms but ubuntu ? No surprise for me ...

I meant to reply to this earlier, but here goes.

Mono is not a Microsoft project. If someone has a problem with Mono than they should also have a problem with Linux FAT/NTFS support, Samba, Wine, and on and on. Is making things compatible really that evil? Really? To those who think so: Bring me all your thumb drives and show me they all use something other than a Microsoft file system or you're a hypocrite.

I just don't understand why Mono gets more hate than other projects which, in principle, are just as "evil" at being compatible with Microsoft technologies. Yet the same people who spread the hate often do it from boxes that have Samba, FAT/NTFS support, Wine, proprietary video drivers, Windows fonts, and even Windows binary codecs. Open Office can read and write MS Office formats. Where's the line?

I don't understand how someone can take the extreme hate position on Mono for no other reason that it implements a Microsoft technology and turn around and use the other stuff.