Arch Linux Installer Adds Wayfire As A Desktop Option, Btrfs Improvements

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  • phoronix
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    • Jan 2007
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    Arch Linux Installer Adds Wayfire As A Desktop Option, Btrfs Improvements

    Phoronix: Arch Linux Installer Adds Wayfire As A Desktop Option, Btrfs Improvements

    Archinstall 3.0.2 was just tagged as the newest version of this quick and easy, text-based installer for the Arch Linux operating system...

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  • Quackdoc
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2020
    • 5063

    #2
    wayfire feels like a second class citizen a lot which is a shame because they do some real good work on that.

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    • Joe2021
      Phoronix Member
      • May 2021
      • 105

      #3
      Is it even in [extra] yet?

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      • Britoid
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2013
        • 2167

        #4
        Shame I was enjoying using ReiserFS, such a killer filesysteml

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        • ElectricPrism
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2013
          • 1270

          #5
          Personally I write my files to disk by manually calculating the offset and streaming the data directory to the platter with dd, if it ain't broke don't fix it!

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          • Quackdoc
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2020
            • 5063

            #6
            Originally posted by Joe2021 View Post
            Is it even in [extra] yet?
            no lol

            EDIT: there is a PR which will remove it if it's accepted https://github.com/archlinux/archinstall/pull/3069 but it's not ready to be merged yet
            Last edited by Quackdoc; 22 January 2025, 06:15 PM.

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            • skeevy420
              Senior Member
              • May 2017
              • 8638

              #7
              Originally posted by Quackdoc View Post
              wayfire feels like a second class citizen a lot which is a shame because they do some real good work on that.
              For me it's having to give up all the conveniences of KDE Plasma to go to Wayfire. More succinct, I'm just not much of a fan of the more universal Wayland launchers and prefer the KDE panel/launcher setup. Unfortunately for Wayfire and other neat Wayland compositors, we can't simply swap KWin with anything else like we could with X11. It was really handy during the X11 era to be able to use components of the desktop from KDE or XFCE with a different Window Manager to get the best of both worlds. Not being able to do that anymore is my biggest gripe with Wayland because it makes windows managers not fun.

              It just isn't worth it for me to go though all the trouble to set up a Wayfire desktop to get a few more compositor features at the expense of losing the things that a full desktop provides. Anyone else can feel free to replace Wayfire with practically any Wayland WM. I have the same feelings of it being unfun since I can't piggyback with the tools I like to use.

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              • Chugworth
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2019
                • 389

                #8
                Originally posted by Britoid View Post
                Shame I was enjoying using ReiserFS, such a killer filesysteml
                That filesystem is pretty much dead and buried at this point.

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                • Quackdoc
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2020
                  • 5063

                  #9
                  Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post

                  For me it's having to give up all the conveniences of KDE Plasma to go to Wayfire. More succinct, I'm just not much of a fan of the more universal Wayland launchers and prefer the KDE panel/launcher setup. Unfortunately for Wayfire and other neat Wayland compositors, we can't simply swap KWin with anything else like we could with X11. It was really handy during the X11 era to be able to use components of the desktop from KDE or XFCE with a different Window Manager to get the best of both worlds. Not being able to do that anymore is my biggest gripe with Wayland because it makes windows managers not fun.

                  It just isn't worth it for me to go though all the trouble to set up a Wayfire desktop to get a few more compositor features at the expense of losing the things that a full desktop provides. Anyone else can feel free to replace Wayfire with practically any Wayland WM. I have the same feelings of it being unfun since I can't piggyback with the tools I like to use.
                  for me, I was never a big fan of KDE anyways. wayfire panels and stuff suck, but when lxqt and xfce stuff becomes wayland with good support, wlroots and smithay based compositors will probably mostly work when protocols get upstreamed. I think using them as the "base" for a generic wayland is what will eventually happen. We shall see what kwin and gnome do, but I doubt they will try to conform.

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                  • skeevy420
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2017
                    • 8638

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Quackdoc View Post

                    for me, I was never a big fan of KDE anyways. wayfire panels and stuff suck, but when lxqt and xfce stuff becomes wayland with good support, wlroots and smithay based compositors will probably mostly work when protocols get upstreamed. I think using them as the "base" for a generic wayland is what will eventually happen. We shall see what kwin and gnome do, but I doubt they will try to conform.
                    I also think it'll be a situation where more compositors and components will target wlroots as a baseline so anything that supports it will benefit and become their own wlroots ecosystem and everything else that doesn't conform will stay as their own niche ecosystems; GNOME, KDE, Enlightenment, etc. The fragmented Wayland status quo.

                    While I expect GNOME to stay the course and remain as their own thing, I wouldn't put it past KDE to want to make as much of their desktop as possible to be more Wayland agnostic and work with more window managers. The "kwin --replace" ability was damn useful and modern Wayland KDE being capable of doing that with anything that's wlroots compatible would be a Godsend.

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