Arch Linux User Repository Requires Packages To Support x86_64: No ARM-Only Software

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  • Quackdoc
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2020
    • 4950

    #61
    Originally posted by mittorn View Post
    But same time, in gentoo python2 builds and runs fine, so i can use legacy software. Now i replaced arch system by Gentoo, but i wondering why AUR removes working arm-only pkgbuilds, but keeps broken unmaintained legacy
    they don't. It will need to be reported by someone and then removed.

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    • hotaru
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2018
      • 382

      #62
      Originally posted by Dukenukemx View Post
      All 5 Linux users on ARM are upset about that.
      I guess you've never heard of Raspberry Pi? or Android?

      Originally posted by Dukenukemx View Post
      There's no reason to continue to support ARM. AMD has proven that x86 can be just as efficient if not more so than ARM. Once AMD and Intel dump 32-bit and switch over to x86S then there's less than zero reasons to support ARM. Leave ARM to the mess that is the Android device market. Maybe when ARM enforces a UEFI or some sort of universal boot loader we can take another look at ARM.
      x86S is dead.

      x86 can only be as efficient as ARM in the high performance/low efficiency space. for lower performance parts, ARM still wins big on efficiency. that's why there aren't any smartphones with x86 processors anymore. and there definitely aren't any x86 smartwatches.

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      • billyswong
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2020
        • 691

        #63
        Originally posted by hotaru View Post

        x86S is dead.

        x86 can only be as efficient as ARM in the high performance/low efficiency space. for lower performance parts, ARM still wins big on efficiency. that's why there aren't any smartphones with x86 processors anymore. and there definitely aren't any x86 smartwatches.
        x86S is scrapped for a collaborative effort together with AMD so that a new standard that share across Intel and AMD will be reached, or so I heard.

        x86S or similar effort is not going to make x86-based architecture good enough for smartwatches. But I guess it will make it 5 to 10% more energy efficient going forward, which is good for everyone. We can't run legacy Win16 or DOS applications in modern computers with Win11 anyway.
        Last edited by billyswong; 11 January 2025, 12:02 AM.

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        • Dukenukemx
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 1385

          #64
          Originally posted by hotaru View Post

          I guess you've never heard of Raspberry Pi? or Android?
          Don't remind me. Have my problems with both.
          x86S is dead.

          x86 can only be as efficient as ARM in the high performance/low efficiency space. for lower performance parts, ARM still wins big on efficiency. that's why there aren't any smartphones with x86 processors anymore. and there definitely aren't any x86 smartwatches.
          It's most likely that the benefits of dumping 32-bit won't outweigh the losses. Legacy applications would likely break, which is the main problem. The main issue is the core of the CPU's, as AMD has proven it can be done. Intel is likely working on something else.

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