AlmaLinux 10 Beta Released For Testing

[JackLilhammers]

Gladly.

A valid use of open source is as a learning tool, which is what it was originally meant to be,

Open source software was used back in the 70's as a way of teaching engineering students how OSes worked so they could maintain and expand on the code.

I have no problem is Rocky and Alma and all of them were taking Red Hat's code base, reviewing it to learn how to make their own OSes then created a LFS using the knowledge they gained and then tried to compete with Red Hat by offering a new product.

That's not what these people do.

The started out by stating that they would take the Red Hat code base, strip out Red Hat's trademarked logos and name. add their logo and name, and package everything in a manner that was bit for bit identical to what Red Hat offers.

You can see it in action because first they wait for RH to release a new version and then they release their version.

They then use that version to raise millions of dollars from sponsors that would have bought RH licenses if they didn't have a cheaper alternative.

This is was makes everyone involved scum.

Because Rocky and Alma and the rest could have created an LFS or they could have decided to base their offerings on Fedora, or Gentoo or Debian or Ubuntu or any of a number of other offerings, but they didn't.

Why?

Because no one would pay them a dime if they did.

Similarly the douches that sponsor this stealing could just as easily have used Fedora Server if they wanted to save the licensing fees but they didn't.

Why because they see the value in the Red Hat product but don't want to pay Red Hat prices.

While technically you can't really steal GPL code, you can steal the final product and you can steal business and that's exactly what these scum are doing.

But Alma takes the low class even further, because they reeled in sponsors with the promise of steeling Red Hat's work and offering for free and then they pulled a bait and switch and have no changed Alma Linux so that it is still based on Red Hat but no longer 100% compatible.

If these guys had to stand on their own two feet, they would fall flat on their faces.

This post gleefully flies over the first 15 years of CentOS existence, during which Red Hat did pretty well (/s)
Apparently they believed that having a free (as in beer) alternative to their subscription based product would create an ecosystem and that would be a good thing.
I'd say that they were right.

So, imo Alma and Rocky are not stealing anything, quite the opposite, and IBM should acknowledge this, like Red Hat did.
Also it's quite funny that you didn't mention Oracle Linux, which could fit your description a little more, especially with Oracle's history of lawsuits.

PS: Alma didn't bait anyone. IBM decided change its policy and Alma adapted to this change

[fotomar]

angry ranting

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[sophisticles]

Sorry, double post.

[sophisticles]

Today I'm so bored that I'm replying to this :'D
If using source code in compliance with its license is considered stealing, then how you think that open source should work?
Go on, amuse me

Gladly.

A valid use of open source is as a learning tool, which is what it was originally meant to be,

Open source software was used back in the 70's as a way of teaching engineering students how OSes worked so they could maintain and expand on the code.

I have no problem is Rocky and Alma and all of them were taking Red Hat's code base, reviewing it to learn how to make their own OSes then created a LFS using the knowledge they gained and then tried to compete with Red Hat by offering a new product.

That's not what these people do.

The started out by stating that they would take the Red Hat code base, strip out Red Hat's trademarked logos and name. add their logo and name, and package everything in a manner that was bit for bit identical to what Red Hat offers.

You can see it in action because first they wait for RH to release a new version and then they release their version.

They then use that version to raise millions of dollars from sponsors that would have bought RH licenses if they didn't have a cheaper alternative.

This is was makes everyone involved scum.

Because Rocky and Alma and the rest could have created an LFS or they could have decided to base their offerings on Fedora, or Gentoo or Debian or Ubuntu or any of a number of other offerings, but they didn't.

Why?

Because no one would pay them a dime if they did.

Similarly the douches that sponsor this stealing could just as easily have used Fedora Server if they wanted to save the licensing fees but they didn't.

Why because they see the value in the Red Hat product but don't want to pay Red Hat prices.

While technically you can't really steal GPL code, you can steal the final product and you can steal business and that's exactly what these scum are doing.

But Alma takes the low class even further, because they reeled in sponsors with the promise of steeling Red Hat's work and offering for free and then they pulled a bait and switch and have no changed Alma Linux so that it is still based on Red Hat but no longer 100% compatible.

If these guys had to stand on their own two feet, they would fall flat on their faces.

[sophisticles]

Name checks out.

You created a new account just to post this?

You mom must be so proud.

[sophisticles]

Bear in mind a lot of it isn't Red Hat's work, it's Red Hat's packaging of community developed software.

Bear in mind that most of it is Red Hat's work.

If you go back to the release of Linux back in 1991, the first distro was Slackware and then it's kind of close between Debian and Red Hat.

The reality is that without all the code and work and money that RH put into Linux and related software you wouldn't have a viable OS today.

Not to mention these lowlifes, and Rocky, are not just repacking the base OS, they steal the complete software stack that Red Hat did develop.

[dude2357]

So it's not bad enough that they steal Red Hat's work, now they have to steal Apple's OSX naming scheme also?

Remember Apple went through a bunch of cat names, Puma, Snow Leopard, Mountain Lion, and so on.

Alma, very originally and cleverly, came up with Kitten, Purple Lion, maybe they can name the next one MILF Cougar, or more appropriately, Leech OS.

Name checks out.

[JackLilhammers]

So it's not bad enough that they steal Red Hat's work, now they have to steal Apple's OSX naming scheme also?

Remember Apple went through a bunch of cat names, Puma, Snow Leopard, Mountain Lion, and so on.

Alma, very originally and cleverly, came up with Kitten, Purple Lion, maybe they can name the next one MILF Cougar, or more appropriately, Leech OS.

Today I'm so bored that I'm replying to this :'D
If using source code in compliance with its license is considered stealing, then how you think that open source should work?
Go on, amuse me

[DMJC]

Cisco's next platform, probably the basis for Call Manager 16.

[hamishmb]

Bear in mind a lot of it isn't Red Hat's work, it's Red Hat's packaging of community developed software.