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  • JPFSanders
    Senior Member
    • May 2016
    • 419

    #31
    Originally posted by kylew77 View Post
    They all made Linux less Linux like the Linux of my youth. But that is just me.
    They made Linux much, much better.

    They do questionable things too, like letting the Gnome "creatures of diverse human nature" ruin the desktop, or removing spice support from qemu/libvirt ruining RHEL as a virtualization host.

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    • Espionage724
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2024
      • 326

      #32
      Originally posted by intelfx View Post

      Thankfully, that is just you.
      It's not. systemd leaking DNS past OS VPN should have been a wake-up call to it being worse than Intel ME; there's no cases of IME being used nefariously even if it could. Wtf is an init doing with a network stack?

      PA I'm convinced only exists for random Bluetooth headphones having wacky names (someone gave a relatively good reason outside of that though on a diff thread). I manage 3 audio devices with mixer on FreeBSD no problem.

      Wayland is the biggest widespread lie in Linux for at least the 8 years I primarily used Linux. Anyone deeming it quality-ready to push to end users even today is doing it maliciously against user experience. Fedora using maintenance burden as an excuse was wild.

      I'm not sure what before NetworkManager was like, but I felt NM was cumbersome at times. At the very least Ethernet seems easy without NM, but I'm not too familiar with wifi without it yet.

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      • Panix
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 1551

        #33
        Originally posted by pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx View Post

        People are welcome to try and run Linux without any of their contributions, but good luck with that because it's pretty much Red Hat all the way down. They built Wayland. They maintain X11. Maybe a console only session with LFS, but building a kernel without some Red Hat developed or maintained code seems improbable.
        Just because you have some positive things - mixed it in with mostly in the past - but, now the newest/most recent developments are ALL negative. I am looking at the bigger picture and developments show Linux is gradually but surely dying with what ppl perceive and think of traditional Linux. It won't be that for much longer. The morons who are posting who are okay with the Microsoft thing are just blind, oblivious and dense. I even use Windows but the road Linux is on is not good. The morons won't be so giddy for long.

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        • Panix
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 1551

          #34
          Originally posted by sophisticles View Post

          It's the "punish the successful" mentality that permeates all of society.

          Brady won 7 Super Bowls? It's because he cheated.

          Apple has revolutionized the world and made a ton of money in the process? It's because they are evil.

          Someone is rich? Tax him until he's not!

          It's the mentality if the leeches that want to punish the producers because the leeches are good for nothing other than leeching.
          Wow, you are just clueless....it's sad but simultaneously, also laughable.

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          • Panix
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2007
            • 1551

            #35
            Originally posted by emblemparade View Post

            How dare they try to protect their employees and their families from a deadly pandemic!

            Anyway, this action had to be put in place because Red Hat is a government contractor. The actual requirement for COVID vaccinations came from the US government. Red Hat had no choice.

            But I guess Red Hat is otherwise evil because it invests millions in systemd and GNOME, and it's forcing these extremely malicious software suites down people's throats at gunpoint. So evil. And also they stopped paying their own employees to maintain the regular edition of CentOS, which happened to directly compete with their own product. That extremely evil deed forced the community to create and maintain their own projects: Rocky Linux, AlmaLinux, and several other great options... wait, no, I mean evil options! Everything from Red Hat is evil, even by association.

            /s
            Wow, you are another idiot. They killed CentOS or are you just waking up from a coma?

            No, they forced employees to get vaccinated - and even though so many ppl were having side effects from getting jabbed - lots of ppl ended up with permanent health problems not from made-up covid 'virus' but the actual vaccines themselves - and you still can't really sue any of those companies - they are still more or less exempt so all those ppl are f*cked. There was a lot of research out there before Google removed everything - you would have discovered how the cycle count threshold of pcr tests could be manipulated to achieve bs positives or negatives - whatever they wanted. But, that's here nor there - it's old news - no one cares about that anymore, surely not covidian idiots who think the vaccines 'saved countless lives.' Sure. Speaking of governments - the US government - that ensures ppl have rights via the Constitution were forcing ppl to get vaccinated, conspiring with corporations who threatened ppl's jobs and careers - making it a condition of further employment - even though these ppl could work from home? Yeah, really altruistic and ethical, there, bud.

            Red Hat was fully on board....they didn't object or challenge it.

            F*ck, you ppl are so damn stupid and pathetic - you can't see five feet in front of you. Yeah, these companies have your best interests at heart - going in League with Microsoft will have a good outcome and you can feel all cozy, don't worry. /s Idiots....
            Last edited by Panix; 19 November 2024, 09:34 PM.

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            • mrg666
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2023
              • 1034

              #36
              I always prefer to have second boot drive when I need Windows. And Linux is always standalone for me. I don't know how WSL can be useful. I use Wine in Linux though. It would be great if MS can invest in Wine development to make Windows running on Linux base.

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              • Sonadow
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 2265

                #37
                I knew my decision to go all-in to Windows years ago was a good one.

                No more having to read about about whether so-and-so WiFi chipset is compatible on Linux. There will *always* be a Windows driver for it.
                No more having to wonder if a printer that is not from that overpriced crappy company known as HP is compatible on Linux. There will *always* be Windows drivers. And no more having to deal with that fuckkery that is CUPS.
                No more having to search for shitty alternatives to specialized software that exists only in Windows.
                No need to deal with the glibc versioning madness. Compile any project against the latest Windows 11 SDK and it will still work all the way back to Windows 8.1

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                • mrg666
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2023
                  • 1034

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Sonadow View Post
                  I knew my decision to go all-in to Windows years ago was a good one.

                  No more having to read about about whether so-and-so WiFi chipset is compatible on Linux. There will *always* be a Windows driver for it.
                  No more having to wonder if a printer that is not from that overpriced crappy company known as HP is compatible on Linux. There will *always* be Windows drivers. And no more having to deal with that fuckkery that is CUPS.
                  No more having to search for shitty alternatives to specialized software that exists only in Windows.
                  No need to deal with the glibc versioning madness. Compile any project against the latest Windows 11 SDK and it will still work all the way back to Windows 8.1
                  Happy for you. You can stop posting here too so that I can share your fortune a bit.

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                  • sophisticles
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2015
                    • 2547

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Panix View Post
                    Wow, you are another idiot. They killed CentOS or are you just waking up from a coma?

                    No, they forced employees to get vaccinated - and even though so many ppl were having side effects from getting jabbed - lots of ppl ended up with permanent health problems not from made-up covid 'virus' but the actual vaccines themselves - and you still can't really sue any of those companies - they are still more or less exempt so all those ppl are f*cked. There was a lot of research out there before Google removed everything - you would have discovered how the cycle count threshold of pcr tests could be manipulated to achieve bs positives or negatives - whatever they wanted. But, that's here nor there - it's old news - no one cares about that anymore, surely not covidian idiots who think the vaccines 'saved countless lives.' Sure. Speaking of governments - the US government - that ensures ppl have rights via the Constitution were forcing ppl to get vaccinated, conspiring with corporations who threatened ppl's jobs and careers - making it a condition of further employment - even though these ppl could work from home? Yeah, really altruistic and ethical, there, bud.

                    Red Hat was fully on board....they didn't object or challenge it.

                    F*ck, you ppl are so damn stupid and pathetic - you can't see five feet in front of you. Yeah, these companies have your best interests at heart - going in League with Microsoft will have a good outcome and you can feel all cozy, don't worry. /s Idiots....
                    You have the balls to call other people clueless and idiots while simultaneously calling COVID a "made up" virus?

                    If you're trolling, not bad, you got me to respond but if you really believe what you say, then I feel sorry for you.

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                    • NeoMorpheus
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2022
                      • 592

                      #40
                      Originally posted by jonkoops View Post
                      Here we go with all the Microsoft hate. Red Hat just wants to put their product in front of users, and this is just another avenue of doing so. Hating on them for wanting to do this is just silly IMHO. People like to criticize Red Hat (sometimes justifiably so), but they are a massive net positive contributor to Linux and open-source at large, so calm your tits.
                      And you wonder why Linux Desktop market share is still 2% after 30 years....

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