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  • sophisticles
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2015
    • 2547

    #21
    Originally posted by avis View Post
    Comments from the Phoronix/Linux freeloaders are despicable.

    The company that is behind:
    • A crazy amount of the Linux kernel development
    • The main patron of Gnome, GTK, Freedesktop and Wayland
    • The company that unified the init system (systemd) and made Linux distros a lot more compatible in the process
    • The company that unified the audio subsystem (PA/PW) which was basically disfunctional before
    • The company that is behind NetworkManager (and custom network configuration systems in other Linux sucked)
    • A metric ton of other open source projects
    The company that has simply invested above and beyond into Linux that anyone else has gets so much hatred.

    Linux fanatics once again have shown their true face. "You have to work your ass off and give me my Linux for free or otherwise you're a bad company akin to Microsoft".

    I expect Michael or tildearrow to delete this comment ASAP. Rabid fanboyism is OK, a breath of common sense, sanity and logic are not OK.
    It's the "punish the successful" mentality that permeates all of society.

    Brady won 7 Super Bowls? It's because he cheated.

    Apple has revolutionized the world and made a ton of money in the process? It's because they are evil.

    Someone is rich? Tax him until he's not!

    It's the mentality if the leeches that want to punish the producers because the leeches are good for nothing other than leeching.

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    • edxposed
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2023
      • 306

      #22
      Maybe this will bring official SELinux support to WSL, which is a good thing.

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      • ehansin
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2016
        • 695

        #23
        Originally posted by avis View Post
        The company that is behind:
        • A crazy amount of the Linux kernel development
        • The main patron of Gnome, GTK, Freedesktop and Wayland
        • The company that unified the init system (systemd) and made Linux distros a lot more compatible in the process
        • The company that unified the audio subsystem (PA/PW) which was basically disfunctional before
        • The company that is behind NetworkManager (and custom network configuration systems in other Linux sucked)
        • A metric ton of other open source projects

        The company that has simply invested above and beyond into Linux that anyone else has gets so much hatred.
        ...
        I'm in agreement with you here. I have been paying well enough attention and know that RedHat has given a lot to the OS community. I know not everyone likes all of it, but so many core pieces have been funded by them. Personally, I am grateful for it all. If they were not a profitable company likely this stuff wouldn't get funded. I know there are those out there that take issue with certain pieces, I just know for myself the Linux desktop experience keeps getting better.

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        • pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2020
          • 1515

          #24
          Originally posted by Panix View Post
          What does that have to do with it? He was just saying Red Hat is selling out (too). They're all evil....ppl think that Linux is somehow excluded from this corporate stuff - but, it's not. Ppl think that because some of these distros are 'conforming to open source values' that they are somehow exempt from criticism or hold some moral high ground but they are not.
          People are welcome to try and run Linux without any of their contributions, but good luck with that because it's pretty much Red Hat all the way down. They built Wayland. They maintain X11. Maybe a console only session with LFS, but building a kernel without some Red Hat developed or maintained code seems improbable.

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          • kpedersen
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 2692

            #25
            Originally posted by pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx View Post
            People are welcome to try and run Linux without any of their contributions, but good luck with that because it's pretty much Red Hat all the way down. They built Wayland. They maintain X11. Maybe a console only session with LFS, but building a kernel without some Red Hat developed or maintained code seems improbable.
            Not particularly true. They wedge themselves into the community. Ultimately we wouldn't even notice if they disappeared tomorrow. If anything we would see *more* contributions to Xorg because RH are acting as a block. Linux didn't care if SCO or AT&T existed, and it won't care once RH or IBM no longer exists.

            Originally posted by Weasel View Post
            There's nothing good about Red Hat.
            ​Nope indeed. They just repackage open-source code and add *more* useless red tape. IBM+RedHat are a match made in heaven. For a company to innovate and flourish, avoid this legacy crap.
            Last edited by kpedersen; 19 November 2024, 03:15 PM.

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            • CommunityMember
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2019
              • 1347

              #26
              Originally posted by pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx View Post
              I'm hoping that clearing the legal hurdles for this with RHEL means that Fedora will also get official WSL support soon. Last time I looked, it was a bit of a pain in the ass to set up manually.
              As I recall, there were a few people in the Fedora world who looked at it WSL in the past, but the requirements to get into the store were sufficiently complicated that it was not pursued at the time. While Fedora does have a (legal) existence outside of RH itself, it is sufficiently (legally, and resource contribution wise) intertwined that whenever new initiatives are considered one needs to expect the processes will take time.

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              • kylew77
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2017
                • 1129

                #27
                Originally posted by avis View Post
                Comments from the Phoronix/Linux freeloaders are despicable.

                The company that is behind:
                • The main patron of Gnome, GTK, Freedesktop and Wayland
                • The company that unified the init system (systemd) and made Linux distros a lot more compatible in the process
                • The company that unified the audio subsystem (PA/PW) which was basically disfunctional before
                • The company that is behind NetworkManager (and custom network configuration systems in other Linux sucked)
                This part of your list you say like it is good things. I wish systemd had never been invented, wish pulse audio had never been invented, gnome 3, wayland, and network manager too.

                In my humble opinion they are all worse than their predecessors!

                They all made Linux less Linux like the Linux of my youth. But that is just me.

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                • intelfx
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2018
                  • 1083

                  #28
                  Originally posted by kylew77 View Post

                  This part of your list you say like it is good things. I wish systemd had never been invented, wish pulse audio had never been invented, gnome 3, wayland, and network manager too.

                  In my humble opinion they are all worse than their predecessors!

                  They all made Linux less Linux like the Linux of my youth. But that is just me.
                  Thankfully, that is just you.

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                  • AsciiWolf
                    Phoronix Member
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 72

                    #29
                    Nice! I would also love to see official Fedora and/or CentOS Stream support for WSL.

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                    • emblemparade
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 404

                      #30
                      Originally posted by Panix View Post
                      How can anyone not recognize the evil that is Red Hat? They really went into the sewer. This is the same company that tried to force ppl to quit or fired them for not getting a clot shot.
                      How dare they try to protect their employees and their families from a deadly pandemic!

                      Anyway, this action had to be put in place because Red Hat is a government contractor. The actual requirement for COVID vaccinations came from the US government. Red Hat had no choice.

                      But I guess Red Hat is otherwise evil because it invests millions in systemd and GNOME, and it's forcing these extremely malicious software suites down people's throats at gunpoint. So evil. And also they stopped paying their own employees to maintain the regular edition of CentOS, which happened to directly compete with their own product. That extremely evil deed forced the community to create and maintain their own projects: Rocky Linux, AlmaLinux, and several other great options... wait, no, I mean evil options! Everything from Red Hat is evil, even by association.

                      /s

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