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    Phoronix: Debian 12.8 Released With Many Bug Fixes & Security Updates

    Debian 12.8 is out today as the latest media refresh for the "Bookworm" release with numerous security fixes along with other general bug fixes included as part of the assortment of package updates...

    Phoronix, Linux Hardware Reviews, Linux hardware benchmarks, Linux server benchmarks, Linux benchmarking, Desktop Linux, Linux performance, Open Source graphics, Linux How To, Ubuntu benchmarks, Ubuntu hardware, Phoronix Test Suite

  • #2
    Congratulations to Debian.

    And while I am at it...

    I wish Phoronix actually did have a set of "default distros" that was tested against. For example Debian, Fedora and possibly RedHat would be good as they form the basis of so many other distros (including Ubuntu which I personally dislike). So pretty please with sugar on top - it would be great if all those benchmarks that are run had a common base. From what I read on Phoronix that is seldom the case.


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    • #3
      If we're going to have such a list, then Devuan and Slackware should be on it, so it's not a systemd fest.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by 8-bit memories View Post
        If we're going to have such a list, then Devuan and Slackware should be on it, so it's not a systemd fest.
        Slackware sure, but I don't see why Devuan should be on such a list. Devuan does NOT as far as I know form a basis for other distros.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by waxhead View Post

          Slackware sure, but I don't see why Devuan should be on such a list. Devuan does NOT as far as I know form a basis for other distros.
          https://distrowatch.com/images/other...amily-tree.png
          Try again.

          Free GNU+Linux base OS. Devuan is a fork of Debian without systemd. Devuan provides a safe upgrade path from Debian, to ensure the right to Init Freedom and avoid entanglement.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by 8-bit memories View Post
            Shame on me. My inner besserwisser got me in the pillory this time.
            And nothing against Devuan , but it is a rather fresh distro and (again to be best of my knowledge) not one of the major "root distros" (yet).
            Or well.... actually , it would perhaps be good to have a couple of non-systemd distro's to test on as well to rule out systemd specific performance stuff too, so maybe Devuan does have it's place in such a test setup after all.

            You changed my mind! , thanks!
            Last edited by waxhead; 10 November 2024, 06:45 PM. Reason: usual typos

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            • #7
              Now we know why Phoronix does not use a defined baseline set of distros. Asking people to select a Linux distro is like people asking for their favorite wine to be sold at Costco.

              But if repetition means anything, Phoronix does have some distros that are used as reference points. ie: Clear Linux for overall performance.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by 8-bit memories View Post
                If we're going to have such a list, then Devuan and Slackware should be on it, so it's not a systemd fest.
                Phoronix test suite does not depend on init system. And init system has no effect on those performance test results.

                So, those two obscure distributions are not worth wasting extra time.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mrg666 View Post

                  Phoronix test suite does not depend on init system. And init system has no effect on those performance test results.

                  So, those two obscure distributions are not worth wasting extra time.
                  It's not quite accurate to say that the init system has no effect on performance. Just think about systemd's huge size and, by dint of its size, the risk that some piece of it will start consuming too much CPU or memory. These are not merely hypotheticals.

                  If you think that Slackware is obscure, then just how young are you?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 8-bit memories View Post

                    It's not quite accurate to say that the init system has no effect on performance. Just think about systemd's huge size and, by dint of its size, the risk that some piece of it will start consuming too much CPU or memory. These are not merely hypotheticals.

                    If you think that Slackware is obscure, then just how young are you?
                    I have used Slackware from 1.0 to 7.0. It became an obscure distribution now since Volkerding stuck with tarball packages and sysvinit. If you enjoy it, keep using it. But I very well know what it is.

                    And, init system does not, to say again, affect the performance. If a computer cannot have enough RAM even for systemd, I doubt it can boot the latest Linux kernel anyway, let alone running the Phoronix suit on it. Stop being a demagogue.

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